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Real/Replica Muppets

Discussion in 'Puppet News' started by Drew, Jan 24, 2004.

  1. Drew

    Drew New Member

    I was wondering if anyone knows where I could get a real, or replica Muppet puppet from? If there isn't any floating about, then would any of you puppet makers from the forum fancy making me one for a price? (a Kermit)

    I've been after a decent Kermit ever since I was a little boy. When I was about 6 my Nan made me one, and as you can see from the pics, it wasn't too great.
    http://fraggledrew.netfirms.com/mc/kermit1.htm
    Terrible eh? :) I loved it at the time though. And that black thing coming out of it's rear end is it's inside lining, which kind of shows how good the build quality is :excited:

    So can anyone help me get a decent Kermit? If not a real/replica Muppet, then does anyone know of any good retail puppets?

    Feel free to e-mail (fraggledrew@yahooo.co.uk)

    Thanks
  2. Whatever

    Whatever Active Member

    There are puppets made by Eden and Applause which can be found on Ebay.
  3. Drew

    Drew New Member

    Thank you, Whatever. I'll have a look for some of them.

    Also, I forgot to mention in my first post that I want a Muppet for personal use only. Don't want it to put on shows or anything like that.
  4. Whatever

    Whatever Active Member

  5. Drew

    Drew New Member

    Thanks :) Is it safe to get stuff sent from the US to the UK? cos I live in the UK at the moment and never done any overseas eBaying before.
  6. Whatever

    Whatever Active Member

    I have no idea, but there are several guys on here who live in the UK and they seem to do it a lot.
  7. Whatever

    Whatever Active Member

  8. Drew

    Drew New Member

    Thank you very much. I think I might go for that UK one :) I'm also still interested in a real/replica one that looks real if anyone knows where to get one from, if it's possible at all.
  9. Whatever

    Whatever Active Member

    Real ones aren't possible, the Jim Henson Company never sells them. Replica ones break copyright laws, but you might find a puppet maker who would make you one in a private agreement.
  10. jediX

    jediX Active Member

    I don't think they break any replica copyright laws if you make them yourself for non-profit, personal usage.
  11. Buck-Beaver

    Buck-Beaver Active Member

    Ahem.

    (Buck pulls out his soap box and sighs deeply)

    Actually, it is very illegal to have a replica Muppet made even just for personal use. Copyright laws are very clear on that. Are you likely to get in trouble for owning one or making one yourself? Probably not. But any puppet maker who makes one for you is profiting from another's work (the JHC's in this case) which is illegal and really disrespectful and unethical.

    Like Whatever suggested, Eden and Applause have made some very good Kermit puppets. In fact they are much better than most of the rip-offs that occasionally show up on ebay or elsewhere on the `net.
  12. Jinx

    Jinx Member

    (Stepping briefly onto Buck's soap box)

    Worth mentioning, too, is that the Eden and Applause items are licensed by the Henson organization for exactly the reasons that Buck mentioned. To protect their copyrighted characters, while still allowing the public to have limited access to them.

    I think that often people think that if they don't get caught, or if (in their own estimation) no one is being hurt by an action that its OK. Its like running a stop sign in the middle of the night when there's no one around. Its still against the law, whether observed or not.
  13. Drew

    Drew New Member

    I never thought about the legal side of things. Sorry :(
  14. Puppetplanet

    Puppetplanet Member

    Actually, that kermit puppet by Applause was pretty decent!

    ;)
  15. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Active Member

    The Applause Kermit had a harder plastic mouth lining; the Eden Kermit is the VERY BEST that I've ever played with! Even over the one from the late 70's.
  16. Rugby

    Rugby Member

    *Hops on rugby's soapbox*

    I hope nobody here is suggesting that making a replica muppet for your own personal enjoyment is somehow wrong or a bad thing. If somebody is suggesting that, then all fan art is wrong, bad, illegal. Some laws are just dumb laws, and if making a replica Kermit for myself is some highly illegal manuever, then come and arrest me. Making a Kermit for myself isn't hurting a single soul. Some may claim that JHC would be losing licensing money by me not buying a licensed Kermit, but you would be very sorely wrong, because I wouldn't buy a licensed Kermit in the first place if replica is what I was after. Fan art should be considered a compliment, not a crime. Arresting fans for things they create for their own personal enjoyment would look pretty bad in the public eye, illegal or not.

    *defiantly steps off soapbox*
  17. Ok....Question.

    Am I to understand, that if I myself make a replica of Floyd to display in my own house, I am Technically infringing on copyrights????
  18. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Active Member

    Well, I look at it like this. I don't want someone else doing Muley art or puppets without my permission, but as long as they don't make money off it then it's really not much I can do about it unless they are demeaning the charaters' integrity and someone mistakes the fake-Muley for my real Muley art. However, I have had folks do Muley art that they gave to me, which I didn't mind at all and found that rather neat.

    I'm sure the JHC doesn't want us to use their characters in any shape form or fashion or to make any profits off those said characters, but I doubt seriously they care what any one singular person does in their own home that doesn't financially benefit themselves with the JHC's properties. They have bigger fish to fry.

    However, technically and morally, it's not a good thing to do.
  19. BlueFrackle

    BlueFrackle Active Member

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  20. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Active Member

    I remember that one! Looks superb!!


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