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Rumor: Muppets Stage Show

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by SSLFan, Jun 11, 2013.

  1. fozzieisfunny

    fozzieisfunny Well-Known Member

    Disney, if you're reading this, I will now do something similar to what Pinkflower7783 said:

  2. muppetperson

    muppetperson Well-Known Member

    I don't know why Disney are seeing if it will work. It has already been done before, both in their Theme Park and various travelling shows, prior.
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  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Let's not forget the room for improvisation. Either intentional or out of necessity to cover up mistakes that will happen in a live show.
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  4. FrackleFan2012

    FrackleFan2012 Well-Known Member

  5. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    It's an interesting article, but the idea that they would do it in the style of Avenue Q, with the puppeteers visible--that would be a huge no-go. Not only because of the "Don't spoil the magic" policy, but because it would also show the puppeteers versus the soundtrack. Either you have a prerecorded soundtrack, or you get puppeteers who can nail the voices. If the former, then the puppeteers would have to lip-synch both themselves and the puppet to the soundtrack, or it would look really fake.

    I dunno--I have a hard time believing they could put the Muppets on Broadway without big walkaround costumes, and...well, I just don't like how those look.
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  6. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    This definitely can be done!

    I understand why understudies are a bad idea for the Muppets in general, but they're a crucial component of theater. Each character would need to be performed live and that would require understudies. There are plenty of talented puppeteers that could fill in and pick up the task. As long as there are no all-understudy performances and each show contains at least a few original players, I don't really have a problem with that. Such is theater.

    No pre-recordings
    This is Broadway, not Six Flags or Sesame Street Live. Those types of programs have their merits, but Broadway auds expect a certain level of professionalism. Theater is a live artform. Any pre-recorded material would have to be kept to a minimum.

    Concealed puppeteers mixed with full-bodied characters.
    There are many ways to conceal puppeteers. If you've ever seen a Broadway show, you know how beautifully intricate some sets can be. I'd imagine one of the main setpieces would be the backstage. Most techniques would require rather static or limited setups. Maybe some areas would be blacked out so that puppeteers could vanish behind all-black costumes. Also, full-bodied monsters like Sweetums would definitely help keep the action moving. Maybe of the few medium-sized Muppets like Bobo and monsters like Carl or Luncheon Counter could be fleshed out into costumes, but the main Muppet group should remain puppets.

    Main performers
    The only obstacle here is the main performers. How much they'll get paid, their availability and willingness. Running around stage every night is challenging for performers of any age. Some veterans might sit this out.

    So yeah. This is entirely doable.
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  7. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    I remain very skeptical. If you want me to believe this can be done, show it to me. Please show it to me, because I would love to see it does as well as you imagine it can be.
  8. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    I guess I'm more of a Muppety spirit about this. I believe the craziest thing can be done. Why not? With all the limitations people pose, I see multiple opportunities. :)
  9. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    Oh, I believe that such a thing could be done. But I never lose sight of the reality that Disney is a business, and will do what best suits their corporate philosophy, not what will make us hardcore fans happy. They'd never let us see the puppeteers in action...not unless there is a drastic shift in their thinking, anyway. And that would be a delight.
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  10. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    That's true. Well, maybe they could do the curtain call. But I doubt they'd do the show Ave Q style too.
  11. DarthGonzo

    DarthGonzo Well-Known Member

    I just don't see this happening. Sorry.
  12. FunnyBear

    FunnyBear Well-Known Member

    It might, they've done similar things before.
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  13. Bear Man

    Bear Man Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't be surprised if Actors Equity and the Broadway unions didn't have a prohibition against using a 100% prerecorded vocal track. While I know that some shows use a certain amount of prerecorded tracks, it's one thing to be playing the prerecorded voice of the actress playing Christine Daae while she and the the Phantom scramble up or down a ladder backstage in order to effect a scene transition, it's another thing completely to reduce the Broadway experience to something akin to a theme park stage show. The Broadway musicians union kicked up a fuss about Priscilla, Queen if the Desert using a prerecorded strings section (I believe strings were used in just one of the songs in the entire show) so it's hard to believe that the performers unions would go along with a fully recorded vocal track.

    Even if you ignore the fact that securing the "normal" lead performers schedules would be both expensive and challenging, and that Disney's practice in creating a Broadway show would surely include planning on being able to take the show around the world - including the option of staging the show in a number of countries simultaneously, many characters are taxing on a performer's vocal chords (Animal, for example). This, combined with the fact that most of the Muppet performers play more than one character (often more than three!), and that Broadway shows occur eight times a week, all suggest a logistical nightmare far beyond that seen in the character-sharing of Avenue Q that would be unsustainable by the regular performers. So if, by some miracle, the poor box-office performance of Muppets Most Wanted hasn't put an end to the prospects of Muppets on Broadway, I think you could guarantee the roles would be performed by non-regular Muppets actors.
  14. Bear Man

    Bear Man Well-Known Member

    That's not exactly correct. Just off the top of my head, the original stage productions of Sweeney Todd, Sunday in the Park with George, and Into the Woods are all live Broadway shows, or touring versions of the Broadway original, that have been filmed for TV/DVD. Cats and Jesus Christ Superstar were also UK stage versions that were filmed specifically for DVD (using the s, so it does happen, just not all that frequently - the more frequent occurrence these days is that the whole show will be adapted for film (eg Mama Mia, Chicago, another version of Into the Woods and, if rumour is to be believed, Wicked).

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