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Sesame Street Episode 847 with Margaret Hamilton

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by gavry3, Jun 3, 2016.

  1. gavry3

    gavry3 Well-Known Member

    Episode 1966 couldn't be gone because they still have footage and it is a key episode in the show. Episode 12 probably is gone but I wouldn't be too sure, because SW probably wanted to archive all the first episodes.
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  2. mariolover

    mariolover Well-Known Member

    Why don't you ask Sesame Workshop next time you visit them? You don't live too far away and I saw that you've been to visit them a couple of times.
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  3. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    I have actually wondered about Episode 1966. Of course, anything could happen, but it seems odd that they would lose an episode that was only 15 years old at the time Unpaved started. But, I suppose it is possible that they had so many episodes that they had to get rid of some to make space, not knowing the collectors value they would have years later, and not having any means to preserve them, much like when the BBC junked episodes of their shows like Doctor Who and The Avengers in the 60s.
  4. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    See, but that was a different era. By the 1980s, tapes were becoming much cheaper. I can't imagine they would even consider doing something like that beyond like the first season or two, especially in the mid-80s where it was abundantly clear the gravy train was not stopping.

    I'm so tired of all y'alls "conspiracy theories" when it comes to stuff that's not availably publicly yet. Segments were taken out of rotation? "Sesame banned it from airing forever!" Certain episodes/segments not online or DVD? "They're banned or lost!" Gimme a break.
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  5. mariolover

    mariolover Well-Known Member

    Sesame Workshop released the ending scenes/credit crawls from episodes 135, 280, 410, 540, 670, 800, 930, 1060, and 1190 way back in 2006 and 2007 on the first 2 old school DVD sets without releasing the whole episodes. Why didn't they release the full episodes? They obviously have them. I don't think it would hurt anything and it's kind of unfair that they only released the ending scenes/credits to those episodes without releasing any of the other scenes.
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  6. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

  7. gavry3

    gavry3 Well-Known Member

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  8. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    It's a better picture.
  9. gavry3

    gavry3 Well-Known Member

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  10. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    The one from the newspaper wasn't that great so that's why I chose a higher quality one.
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  11. muppet maniac

    muppet maniac Well-Known Member

    You mentioned that the episode occurred during the Matt Robinson as Gordon era (1970-72), but I looked up the guy's profile (his name is Leonard Pierce, who has his own website), and it seems like the episode was actually from either season 6 or 7 (when Roscoe Orman took over as Gordon), since Leonard was born in 1969 and was between 6 and 7 years old when he first saw it (1975-76).


    It was actually from season 4 or 5, because episodes from those seasons were repeated in seasons 6 and 7. In the "I'm looking for a skit" thread, Nantovision mentioned seeing the episode as well. Since Nanto remembers Hal Miller and has no recollection of Matt Robinson whatsoever, this would make sense.

    Here's Leonard Pierce's website:
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  12. gavry3

    gavry3 Well-Known Member

    It's been a year. I still haven't went to the archives... Oh, well.

    Anyways, what made me come back on is that I was scrolling on a Jim Henson tumblr page and found this picture that might have been backstage:


    Then I went on their website and found this picture, which must have been from the same episode because he's wearing the same clothes:


    So that's cool.
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  13. gavry3

    gavry3 Well-Known Member

    I've been looking more into this episode, me being me with thousands of tabs open, and I came across this statement from somebody.
    I don't know if this is trustable but if it is... At least it's in storage.
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  14. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    Makes me wonder now if it really is.
  15. ErinAardvark

    ErinAardvark Well-Known Member

    I wasn't born when this episode debuted, but I'd love to see it, since "The Wizard of Oz" is one of my favorite movies (if not my all time favorite movie ever).
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  16. gavry3

    gavry3 Well-Known Member

    Fun fact: It was the first movie Jim Henson ever saw!
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  17. Blue Frackle

    Blue Frackle Well-Known Member

    And his favorite too! All the more reason they should release it! :)
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  18. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Waiting for the episode to surface be like

    In seriousness though, I've given up on hearing about a peep of the episode surfacing and can live without it. I'm sure it still exists, and I'm not convinced ANY episode from them is lost/destroyed unless I heard directly from the workshop themselves.
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  19. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I'm skeptical of this. If it's an unwritten rule to not digitize this, then it's not in writing, how likely would the archivists be to remember/be aware of this? And just one episode out of them all?* I know they didn't plan to air it again, but there's thousands of episodes that haven't aired since their original broadcasts and they made newer copies of them all regardless. And they know for a fact that it's in storage, just lost in storage? Besides, it seems like that person asked for it to be digitized after learning it was lost in storage, apparently hopeful that they would find it soon.

    I wouldn't be surprised if that person just said that to get somebody to stop bugging them about the episode. I don't know exactly what led to him or her saying that stuff, but the person's mom just happens to work for Sesame Workshop?

    *Of course, the master tape could have some kind of label to not air, which could be what has led to them not digitizing it. I've heard that the rare "Adoption" episode of You Can't Do That on Television had a sticker on it that said "do not air", so I guess it's possible.
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  20. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Behind the scenes at the workshop:

    *Intern takes the tape to digitise the episode*

    Employee: *slaps hand* what do you think you're doing?

    Intern: I- I was just planning on digitising this episode with all the other-

    Employee: Shhhhhh..... We must never speak of this episode again....

    Intern: But-

    Employee: SHH! Put it back.

    Is how I'd imagine it. Not likely but hey, I just have a good sense of humour. :p

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