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Sesame Street Season 46 Episode 4618 - A Very Cookie Mother's Day

Discussion in 'Season 46' started by Phillip, May 7, 2016.

  1. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Episode 4618 - A Very Cookie Mother's Day
    HBO Premiere: Saturday May 7, 2016
    PBS Premiere: Monday May 8, 2017

    Cookie Monster wants to give his mom the perfect Mother's Day gift, but first he needs to learn how to control himself from eating it. Also featuring Cookie Monster's Smart Cookies-The Snickerdoodle and Elmo's World-Family. Brought to you by the letter M and the number 19.

    This episode features an all-new street story.


    If you saw "A Very Cookie Mother's Day" please like this post and share your thoughts below.
    Last edited: May 6, 2017
  2. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Who were the humans in this episode?
    Also, was Zoe in it?
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Alan was featured mainly in the story, Nina made a brief cameo. And no, Zoe wasn't in it. Elmo and Cookie were the main Muppets in the story, but others appeared briefly including Grover, Oscar, Big Bird, Two-Headed Monster, and Telly.

    While the overall story of the episode was really nice and sweet, this is, unfortunately, one of those episodes where there's a lot of nitpicking I can do. Like for starters, as I've mentioned before, giving Grover and Cookie's Mommies decidedly younger-looking designs make them look more like they could be their sisters instead of their mothers - Grover's Mommy especially, going from having short curly hair, old lady glasses, and motherly attire to longer, chic-looking hair, and more contemporary wardrobe. Less pressing for Cookie's Mommy, but her redesign looks considerably younger too. I also found it strange that Big Bird sang about how much Nina is like a mom to him, considering we've only seen them interact together maybe, what, once? If perhaps he was singing about Maria or Susan (or maybe even Gina), I could buy that, but we haven't seen much of Big Bird and Nina interacting. If anything, I almost expected a cameo by Granny Bird. While Smart Cookies was fun and enjoyable enough, the keying took a serious step down this time, you could especially tell with Cookie's fur, or when Figby's squeegee was turned at certain angles; very telling, rather poorly done.

    But it was still a pleasant, sweet episode. I liked it.

    And again, looking at the publicity still for this episode, it still amazes me how the stills always look so bright and well-lit, while the actual show looks so dark and sunset-like.
  4. antsamthompson9

    antsamthompson9 Well-Known Member

    This episode was pretty good. I liked Stephanie's performance of both Grover and Cookie's mom. Like D'Snowth said, it would have been better for Big Bird to sing about someone more established than Nina. I also wanted them to give Elmo's mom a new performer. The Smart Cookies was pretty good. I liked Chipowkski's mom having skills of her own.
  5. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    I wanted to know which episode Jennifer's Zoe would appear in, so I asked Stephanie D'Abruzzo through Twitter what episode they were filming in this picture:


    Unfortunately, she said that she's not allowed to comment on any episodes that haven't aired yet. So it looks like we'll have to just wait until the episode airs.
  6. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    Maybe it's for that Halloween episode, that Oscarfan was talking about?
  7. SpinneyBigBird1

    SpinneyBigBird1 Well-Known Member

    What I think you're forgetting is that the children watching the show, who (as much as I'm sure the show values the opinions of the long-time fans) are who the episodes are written for, have moms in their 20s and 30s. The typical moms (and even grandmothers, in some cases) nowadays no longer have short curly hair and old lady glasses. The children watching are supposed to relate to the experiences and lives of the characters onscreen. That's always been the point.

    Seeing as neither Grover or Cookie's mothers were that established of characters to begin with, I think the changes they have made are fine to reflect the relatability to viewers.
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  8. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    Just watch the episode, ok episode, I wish more Muppet moms were featured, oh well.
  9. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I agree with that. I also want to note that things don't follow exact continuity on this show, especially nowadays, so that fact D'Snowth brought up about Nina having few scenes with Big Bird doesn't matter much, as it implies she's been around enough, we just haven't seen it.
  10. Big Bird Fan

    Big Bird Fan Well-Known Member

    I'm just glad they included someone who's like a mom. It feels like non traditional families are forgotten on Mother's/Father's day, so at least Sesame Street acknowledged they exist.
    zucca likes this.
  11. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    In that case it would've been nice for Gina to have been their.
  12. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    I want Sesame to do a Father's Day episode.
  13. SpinneyBigBird1

    SpinneyBigBird1 Well-Known Member

    I absolutely agree, but I think this cements that the show is really only using Alan, Chris, and Nina as humans now. It would have been so easy to insert Susan or Gina into that spot, but they chose to use Nina instead. We haven't seen any other humans on the show so far this season, and as far as I can tell from behind-the-scenes pictures of season 47 it's still only them.

    I think this comes down to the show trying to make itself like the other kids' shows out there. Look at the shows on channels like Sprout. They normally have one (typically young) human and the rest of the characters are puppets. So, I think the show has scaled back its human use to just those three to try and do a similar format in order to compete with them.

    This is not awful in my eyes. I mean, I like Alan and Chris and I'm warming up to Nina (I still miss Leela), but I do kind of hope I'm wrong.
  14. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I wouldn't mind so much about the older cast members not being there if Mando and Leela were still on the show.
  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The only thing that really ticks me off about the lack of appearances from those two is that they made such a big deal about both of them coming on the street, only for them to be priced out of the show. I'm sure the fleeting demographic doesn't mind, and only the older kids will wonder why they're gone. Still, to make that much of a fuss to have a contest to cast a new Latino character only to use him for a year or two...kinda d**kish. I'm glad they cast another Latino to fill in for that gap, so there's at least that representation still left. And this is clearly a budget move SW had to make before HBO's money kicked in (before it was even a thing, really). I want to forgive that, I really do... they could have at least kept Mando in.
  16. Ethan Menaker

    Ethan Menaker Active Member

    Are Susan, Gordon, Luis, Bob, and Gina only credited for honorary purposes at this point? While I completely understand why they appear less frequently, I wish they at least appear occasionally as grandparent figures (minus Gina).
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  17. SpinneyBigBird1

    SpinneyBigBird1 Well-Known Member

    I honestly think Ismael Cruz Cordova and Nitya Vidyasagar exited the show on their own terms. It does seem unlikely that the show would publicly cover their search for a new cast member only to dismiss him from the show after two seasons. (Unless studies show he didn't test well with the children watching or some other reason like that.) It seems most plausible that those two exited the show on their own terms.
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  18. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    Yeah. That was strange. Nina only made her debut this season and already she's like BB's mom. Maria and Susan would have made more sense, but since Sonia Monzano is no longer with the show that would have been hard. Susan may have worked and it would have been a good way for her to have an appearance this season, but I don't know. Maybe Loretta wasn't available when this was filmed. It does seem like Granny Bird would have been their best bet.

    It's also unusual that the characters have different mother's each time. Recall Two-Head's mother used to look like Telly and she didn't have two heads.
  19. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    On one hand, it would've been nice if Susan had made an appearance, but on the other hand it would be confusing to most of the audience if they said she was his mother figure but than she didn't show up for any other episodes. There really aren't that many kids who still know who Susan is.
  20. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    Actually, I wonder about her fate on the show, because as much they've been talking about the departure of Luis, Bob and Gordon, they haven't really said anything about whether Susan will still be on the show or not. I'm thinking she'll probably go as well since she has been phasing out anyway the last few seasons. (Except for a recent season where she appeared in about four episodes, but of course so did Maria, Gordon, Bob, Luis, etc.) So with Gordon and Miles gone, I don't think Susan will have too much of a role anymore. I could be wrong on this. (I was wrong once in 1987, so it's possible.) Hopefully I'm wrong, but you never know.

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