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Sesame Street Season 46 Episode 4635 - Halloween

Discussion in 'Season 46' started by Phillip, Oct 29, 2016.

  1. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    Episode 4635 - Halloween
    HBO Premiere: Saturday October 29, 2016
    PBS Premiere: Monday October 23, 2017

    In this special Halloween episode, the letter of the day is "H" (for "Halloween"), Cookie Monster discovers "The Walking Gingerbread" (a parody of "The Walking Dead") and Elmo learns that a good imagination is the most important part of pretending.

    This episode features an all-new street story and doesn't include Elmo the Musical or Elmo's World.


    If you saw "Halloween", let others know. Please like this post and share your thoughts.
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2017
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  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    This was a pleasant surprise. And all this time I was thinking they were adding just a Halloween song to the Snazzy Society repackage. Still weird that's what the TV listings said.

    Pretty good for an Elmo and Abby episode. I like that Elmo was able to get angry and jealous in this episode. Is...is it wrong that I'm starting to prefer Ryan's Elmo over Kevin's? I really can't blame him for the fact that Elmo rarely emoted after a while, though. Please tell me it's not just me who thinks that Irwin was a stand in or expy for Walter, considering it's Peter? Kinda wish there was more stuff for other characters to do in this one, but glad they at least made cameos. Speaking of, yay! Martian Yip Yip cameo. Also loved the joke about how the Martians don't have their own word for meatballs, so they use an English cognate. Nice little gag if you watch enough foreign language media. Those English words that pop up always sound awkward.

    The big surprise was the surprise Crumby Pictures Walking Dead skit. I know it's not officially one, even though it basically was the same lesson from the Star Smores bit. Nice to know there was one spoof segment that they left for this episode. I barely get any references since I don't watch that series, but it looks like they at least did some research on this one.

    EDIT: forgot to mention the one thing here. I do not believe for a second that even in the universe of Sesame Street an out of the box store bought costume would be that authentic and better than a home made one. Unless Irwin's mom is that well to do that she can clearly buy things from the Sharper Image catalog.
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  3. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    I love how this was the big finale episode of Season 46 with all the main characters expect for Snuffy were in the background or had a line or two. I didn't even expect Grover or the Yip-Yip Martian have a cameo. Also I love The Walking Gingerbread parody with Cookie Monster as Rick.
  4. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Did anyone else besides me feel like Big Bird's mouse costume was just an ever-so-slightly subtle nod to Tutter? I kind of felt that way.

    Another one of my favorite bits was Cookie dressing in different costumes to try and get more pumpkin cookies from Nina.

    Out of all the different costumes, I think I liked Alan's Elvis costume the best. Abby's cup of cocoa costume was cute and something different, but I do like how in the end, Elmo and Irwin were able to find some common ground with their imaginations, eliminating the jealousy they felt towards each other.

    I'm just glad they took the time to actually make the street look like fall for Halloween, since the Valentine's episode earlier in the season looked as if it took place in the dead of summer.

    I missed the Crumby Pictures though, but I did notice there was no EW or ETM in this one.
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  5. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Wow. See? This was exactly what I was talking about. Without a tacked-on ETM or EW, look what they could fit in. A longer street story, couple more segments (I liked that "Pumpkin Face" cartoon) and even a short, second street scene. It's too bad the rest of the cast was relegated to cameos, but at least they were there in some capacity.

    I didn't think that Walking Dead spoof was gonna air, but cool. I don't know if it was intended to be a Crumby Pictures bit or not, since those were exclusively films.
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  6. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Ooh, I wanna see it sooo bad! This sounds like the best episodes of the season.

    Also, I saw the spanish version of the trailer. How come the talking is dubbed into Spanish, but not the songs? Seems it would be pretty confusing to non- English speaking viewers:

  7. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Didn't watch this... But based on the posts here it sounds like :insatiable: used the Garfieldian method for best possible trick-or-treating results. Will probably learn about Irwin and the Walking Dead spoof at the Wiki. :search:
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It's easier and quicker to keep songs untranslated. There's a fair amount of language gymnastics involved to getting the lyrics to make sense, fit the melody as best they can, in cases make it rhyme (something that's not necessary in certain languages) and sound as acceptable as possible. Some foreign dubs just put subtitles over songs, some actually bother to translate. I remember a Plaza Sesamo episode where they just didn't bother with "I Believe in Little Things" and turned it into a spoken word poem over the melody.

    I'm glad I'm not the only one. Don't know why I didn't bother to mention it. I guess we'd need official confirmation that it's a reference to go any further than that, though.

    I'd at least hope the new shortform Elmo's World segments don't intrude that much on the show. I agree, this is the best put together episode I've seen this season, and that was all due to not forcing an Elmo segment into the end. An Elmo song and a street scene call back with Elmo, but no separate Elmo segments. I liked actually seeing a letter and number segment after the songs, something that shouldn't be that rare.

    What I really liked about the Walking Gingerbread segment was that they were able to make the "crumbies" unsettling but not scary. They did have dead eyes and looked very...awkward when they were eating cookies (I like the close ups they kept doing). It's hard to get a balance of creepy and little kid friendly when it comes to Halloween kid's shows, but I'm glad they pulled it off. mild peril and all that.
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  9. antsamthompson9

    antsamthompson9 Well-Known Member

    Could someone please upload this episode to YT or Vimeo or something? I would've thought some website on the Internet would have it by now, but I can't find it.
  10. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    Ditto for me.
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm betting you're not going to want to wait a year when this thing clearly gets released as a DVD special. because clearly...this thing's going to be on DVD in a year, I can almost be sure of that.
  12. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    Doesn't help much. We'll still have to wait a year either way. But you never know. I think some SS specials (Ex: "The Street We Live On") had an early DVD release, so it's not impossible that it will be released sooner. We'll see.
  13. antsamthompson9

    antsamthompson9 Well-Known Member

    I got HBO back, so I just saw the episode. I liked Abby doing the cold open. We need cold opens with Big Bird, Oscar and Rosita. The street story was very good. I liked all the costumes everyone wore. And I liked Irwin. The funniest part was Cookie trying to get more cookies from Nina. The Walking Dead parody was fun. The only complaint I have is that Ernie and the Count didn't get solo lines.
  14. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    I watched the episode today and it was wonderful. Definitely the best one of the season. I actually really liked Irwin, which I think was mostly because of Peter Linz's performance, but I wouldn't mind him making a return in the near future. The issue they tackled with Elmo being jealous of Irwin's costume was definitely a relatable one, especially now that we live in the age where so many expensive costumes are everywhere on the internet and cosplay is a thing, so people feel more and more the need to make all of their costumes seem as professional and polished as possible. I'm glad the street story was longer in this episode, it allowed for more fun moments with the characters and the plot didn't feel rushed. Oh, and another thing I liked was Elmo. Elmo has actually been a pretty interesting character lately, between this one and the Christmas special. Sadly, I can't say the same for Abby though. Ten years since her debut and the writers still don't know what to do with her. Besides being a fairy, I honestly can't think of any personality traits that she has that the other characters don't have.

    As Oscarfan said, the whole episode flowed very nicely without the Elmo segment taking up half the show and so it's kind of a shame that SW feels the need to bring back Elmo's World.

    And has anyone else noticed that a lot of the characters voices have gotten deeper? With Caroll getting older, Big Bird's voice has gotten lower, Zoe's has too because of the performer change, and even Baby Bear's voice sounded noticeably deeper in this one.
  15. antsamthompson9

    antsamthompson9 Well-Known Member

    Now that the episode has aired on PBS, I wanna put this episode here for people like @LittleJerry92 who probably haven't seen it yet. Alex, I think you'll agree with DrTooth, Oscarfan, and Pig's Laundry that Ryan's Elmo is more real than Kevin's Elmo:


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