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    Sesame Street's 48th season officially began Saturday November 18 on HBO. After you see the new episodes, post here and let us know your thoughts.

Sesame Street Season 46 Press Kit; HBO premiere set for Saturday January 16, 2016

Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by Pig's Laundry, Nov 17, 2015.

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  1. antsamthompson9

    antsamthompson9 Well-Known Member

    I just wanna say today is a good day for me: My dad just added HBO to our cable provider. So now I'm all set for when the new season premieres!
     
  2. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I mooch off my friend's HBO Go account.

    The American way!
     
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    And now I'm suddenly reminded of the time you played Kramer.
     
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'd say something about my provider not knowing they didn't turn off the free HBO trial, but I don't want to jinx it. I certainly don't want to lose any of the channels I'm not supposed to get as well especially FXX. Though would it have killed them to give me Disney XD without knowing?

    Then again, I rarely watch HBO.
     
  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    What is FXX anyway? FX on steroids or something?
     
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    FXX is an excuse to put some of their shows on another channel that you only can get on super premium somehow. Plus it has nightly Simpsons reruns that, despite the fact they promised not to, air cut episodes anyway for extra commercials to fund a channel that you have to pay extra to get. Not doing any favors to Always Sunny, of course.
     
  7. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    So is any one else ready for the premiere, I'm mooching off a friend's HBO so how are you guys watching SST.
     
  8. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

  9. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

  10. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I know I've said this before, but these articles are touching on something that's really been bothering me for years now, it's that kids are given no choice but to become hooked on gadgets and gizmos practically as soon as they're yanked out of the womb - the fact that one of the articles mentions that toddlers today can't differeniate between a TV screen and a mobile phone screen, and other calls toddlers of 2016 "media-drenched," just bothers me immensely. I mean, really, how is this benefitting our kids today? When SST started back in 1969, educational television was an affective tool that helped underprivileged kids learn, but there were also fewer options back then, such as computers and phones -- heck, Jon Stone even insisted the setting be an innercity street because of all the action that takes place on such a street, namely kids running up and down sidewalks, jumping rope, hop-scotch, among other things. Not to mention back then, there was a concern over keeping kids TV intake in moderation. . . . how did we go from too much TV is a bad thing for kids to making sure kids are always absorbed by TV, computers, and phones as much as possible? Look at all we're depriving kids of today: namely imagination. Even ALVINNN!!! AND THE CHIPMUNKS did an episode where Dave drags the Chipmunks on a camping trip because he feels they're too addicted to their video games and cellphones . . . and they're absolutely miserable when they realize their cabin has no signal for their phones. I can even remember a time when the subject of what age should be considered 'old enough" for kids to have their cellphones was actually a big debate - and again, the concern was kids getting too hooked on them at too young an age. I guess that's not a concern anymore.

    But, I digress...

    Looking at the slideshow, is that new Laundromat sign a permanent new change to the set? I've never seen it until these pictures.

    I am glad, however, there will be fewer celebrity segments - as I've said before, the oversaturation of celebrity guests in recent seasons felt like a contrived move of desperation on SST's part to try to stay relevant for both kids and adults, epsecially when even the street stories felt more like a day in the limelight for whatever celebrity guest they had.

    So Oscar really does have a network of tunnels under the street? I knew he had been watching too much HOGAN'S HEROES. :p

    And SW's new CEO is a former Nick executive? Suddenly, this makes so much more sense.
    [/quote]I notice this article mentions a plummet in DVD sales . . . uh, yeah, probably because all they keep putting out is Elmo DVDs, which everybody has been saying, loud and clear, that they're tired of.

    But I commend them for trying to teach kids to be kinder and nicer to each other in this world we live in today where nobody values companionship, and it's all about looking out for number one.

    Well, I'm glad this points out that Joey's departure wasn't entirely because of whatever they're doing with Murray; our hunch (or mostly mine, anyway) that part of the reason for his leaving was because of the scaling back of Muppets is proven to be correct, but now we also know that it was a combination of that, dropping parodies, shortening the show, new subject matter ("boo-boos"), and clashing with new SW staff is what finally drove him to leave . . . so in a sense, just about all of our hunches and speculations (sans the Murray one) have been correct.

    The fact that this article mentions that Sonia "moved out" and "younger Latina Nina moved in" seems to only add fuel to my speculation that Sonia's departure wasn't entirely her choice; the idea of replacing Maria with a younger Latina character (one that was described in this very article as a "living Dora the Explorer") sounds very much like a show business move that's been around for a long time: dumping older actors in favor of younger ones.
     
  11. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Well-Known Member

    Well, it depends on if I can find them online or not. I may have to wait nine months until PBS airs them. We'll see.

    I think that one may be next in line for me to watch on my DVD if we're talking about the same episode, but that's a bit irrelevant. Lol.
     
  12. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Considering how long certain cast members have been around, I doubt she was forced out. Sonia has said she was considering leaving for a good while and just happened to do it before season 46 started taping. She certainly had less to do each season, and it was her decision, not SW's.

    The description of the new cast member seems based around the writer's own thoughts, not the actual intent of the producers.
     
  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I am aware of all that, it just doesn't help that bringing in a "younger Latina to replace Maria" has happened in the timely manner of which it has.
     
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That article really pointed out what I feared to be the case. While old school fans were always whine...errr...concerned about the show being dumbed down, it seems like there's an air of that happening on purpose here, and all because of the former Nick and HIT guy. The fact someone involved with lesser and more patronizing kid's programming being a consultant doesn't sit right with me. Not at all. The thing that really sours me on the fact they're talking directly to the youngest of the audience again is they finally turned that corner that Elmo's World dug them into with the batch of engineering and science episodes that brought the older (5 year olds, relatively older) audiences back. Now they're going back into the 2-3 range again, it sounds like.

    Considering the reasons why, I'm mixed. There's no doubt that Sesame Street relying that much on parody and celebrity the past decade or so seems a little bit...well... desperate to stand out in the over-saturated market of preschool shows. Those were no doubt for older fans and parents watching, not to mention the press to keep Sesame a household name in the massive ocean of little kiddy entertainment. And the scary thing is, it's good now. Nick still holds onto the "sitting around answering their own questions" model, but Disney has some actual great programming that never feels patronizing. The Lion Guard is pretty good, and TLK fans might just get some enjoyment out of it. Back to the subject, the show's biggest concern was budget, and I've been saying the Word of the Day celebrity bits must've cost them an arm and a leg for both celeb costs and flying puppeteers out to California to perform with them. If there's one segment I felt needed to go, it was that one.

    The parodies, however.... no let's be honest. They were NEVER for the kids. And we've had them since the 70's when they also weren't meant for the kids. They were for both the writers and performers to have some fun, and for the parents who were strongly encouraged to watch with their kids. I for one didn't get the Rebel L bit until I was older, mainly because my parents didn't listen to that kind of current music from the 80's. To be fair, there was stuff I did get because my parents listened to or watched some of it, but that's a long tangent. And the parodies were either shallow puns based on the titles or actually researched bits and always have been. The problem I do have with the parodies, however, was how important they were getting. The fact they basically had to advertise the heck out of them felt, like I said earlier, a bit desperate to stay relevant. They were listing "Girl Scouts" and the game of "Simon Says" as parodies when... well... that's ridiculous. To say the least, you can't really parody girl scouts, really (at least the way they did it). They said an episode was a parody of something when it wasn't as well. I liked it better when we didn't know when these jokes were coming up instead of impatiently waiting for them.

    Oh... and by the way, I just found this on YT. The first clip we're seeing of the HBO run. Enjoy.

     
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  15. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Aaww,well DANG IT! I had a feeling they were gonna dumb down the show.
     
  16. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

  17. antsamthompson9

    antsamthompson9 Well-Known Member

    I'm telling you: Kevin needs to come back. If he takes back his job as senior creative adviser, everything will go back to the way it was and we'll all be happy. All the cases for him were thrown out and dismissed, so his name must be cleared by now.
     
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  18. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    The thing of it is, if Kevin came back, that doesn't automatically mean everything will go back to the way they were - he may have clout, but I'm sure his word wouldn't be the exact final say (that apparently was the case with Joey). Likewise, the cases may have been dismissed or thrown out, but this is still a blemish that has discredited him,.
     
  19. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    I think Prairie Dawn is out of retirement.
     
  20. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    There's no evidence that none of these changes wouldn't have been made regardless of Kevin's presence. I honestly can't say this is good or bad. It's just change. Things change. That happens. I'll probably still enjoy the final product. But let's not kid ourselves. This show isn't for adults or Muppet fans; it's primarily for kids, has been, always will be. If the show doesn't please/entertain kids, it's not doing its job.
     
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