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Sesame Workshop to develop new channel with Comcast, HIT

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by Phillip, Jun 9, 2004.

  1. mikebennidict

    mikebennidict New Member

    interesting. a wonder if my sattelite provider would carry it. would it even charge more for it. i still live at home so i'm sort of fortunate. if i din't i probbaly wouldn't even have sattelite tv since i don't watch it TV very often.
  2. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    ya forgot about the hoobs too! tis very cool...sadly any muppet show stuff like muppet babies, muppet show, muppet movies, muppets tonight, etc will be MIA. I blame it all on EM.tv and Eisner. but yeah, Fraggle Rock needs to be back on cable, pronto.
  3. The Storyteller

    The Storyteller New Member

    Comcast owns E!, and it's on DirecTV, Dish Satellite, Time Warner, FOXTEL, Adelphia, Comcast, and every other satellite/cable provider! :confused: So it will more than likly be carred on others, if they want the channel to make money! :) I have DirecTV! :)
  4. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Active Member

    Yeah I wasn't thinking about that, surprisingly. Comcast has majority stakes in E! and Style (along with Disney) and also majority stakes in Outdoor Life Network and The Golf Channel.

    So it wouldn't even make sense for this network to be only available on Comcast systems, especially since PBS, HIT, and Sesame would want this venture to be profitable and seen nationwide, not just in selected cities.
  5. ssetta

    ssetta Active Member

    Well, that is true. But there are certain digital channels, like G4, that are ONLY available on Comcast. And also, not even every Comcast system will carry it. But you are right. Because as you may know, many areas now have more than one cable provider. My area does. I mean, I hope my area gets this channel, because I am ALREADY very excited. :)
  6. furryfella

    furryfella New Member

    I Hope mY cable company gets the channel!! IT will be nice too see what SS shows or seasons they will show & hopefully they will show more than Noggin did!
  7. The Storyteller

    The Storyteller New Member

    I get G4 and I have DirecTV! :eek: I don't get why PBS would want another cable kids channel? They already have PBS Kids! :confused:
  8. ssetta

    ssetta Active Member

    So, I get the impression that this new channel is 24 hours of preschool programming. And also, keep in mind that that PBS Kids channel has NO SS AT ALL!!! I wonder why!! So, somehow, I'm not so sure that this will have old programming like Sesame Street Unpaved. :(
  9. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Active Member

  10. ssetta

    ssetta Active Member

    I wasn't able to view it. I don't have an account. :(
  11. Splurge

    Splurge Member

    You can create an account with NYTimes for free.
  12. The Storyteller

    The Storyteller New Member

    I heard somewhere that there is a 5th partner in this deal, but didn't wanted to be named! :confused: I wonder who? :confused: "PLEASE! JHC! PLEASE!"
  13. ssetta

    ssetta Active Member

    Actually, I just read it, and it doesn't look that lengthy to me. :smirk: And something tells me, I am not so sure if it will have Classic SS. :(
  14. Mark The Shark

    Mark The Shark New Member

    Okay...having read this a couple of times, here is my interpretation of this:

    Comcast is *working* on a deal with SW and HIT (which could fall through or could work out just fine; two words: Disney/Henson). Nothing is final yet.

    If they get it together and work out a deal, then the plan is to partner with an *existing* channel or company, possibly:


    Well, how do you like that.

    This means (if I understand this correctly) that Comcast, SW and HIT would then partner up with *Noggin* to create some new channel which no one will be able to get for a while...let's say it will be called "Noodle" or something like that. (That's not the name. Don't quote me on that.)

    In that scenario (which *is only hypothetical*) then *Noggin* would essentially be playing the same role *Nickelodeon* played in the creation of *Noggin* in the first place, back in 1998.

    Sound confusing?

    As far as classic SS or Electric Company being shown, that would be great, but my *guess* (and it is *only* a guess) would be that they would just trot out the same 67 "Unpaved" shows and the same 65 "Electric Company" shows. Until they get established and get into more homes, at which time they would most likely bury the shows in the middle of the night and then drop them altogether....gee, why does this sound familiar? :)

    The reason I say this is because "Unpaved" and the Noggin "Electric Company" series (and "321 Contact" and "Square One" and all of that) were packaged and put together by Sesame Workshop to air on Noggin, but since they assembled them in nice, neat, cable-friendly sets of 65 edited shows (plus the 2 extra Unpaved that were added later), these can be made available and leased to any cable network, not just Noggin. They're all set to go, ready to air.

    So yeah, that would be great. It would be great if they added more episodes too, that weren't shown last time. But I'm not going to hold my breath on that one.

    Anyway, good news overall. Though I could do without the Barney...
  15. ssetta

    ssetta Active Member

    Maybe they won't add anymore episodes, but it would be sort of nice to see all the "Unpaved" episodes again. And what about Season 25? Do you think it would have that as well?

    And also, I'm not sure if it would have "The Electric Company", "321 Contact", or any of those. From what I understand, this channel is STRICTLY for preschoolers 24 hours a day. And Noggin was never like that, so I don't know.
  16. mikebennidict

    mikebennidict New Member

    i still wonder if the classic CTW shows even got a chance in the 1st place considering what Mark said about when Noggin began to be shown on more stations and them move them to a later time and them eliminate them? the audience might for these shows might of been a minority but then again the ammount of people seeing these shows might have been in the minoity and the rest of the country deprived of them.
  17. furryfella

    furryfella New Member

    I can see what mark is saying But Maybe They will show MORE Seasons Then Noggin did whne they first came On the air In 98. They could Do More shows then the 67 Noggin did with unpaved. I would Love Like too see more the 75 season Then anything.
  18. JaniceFerSure

    JaniceFerSure Active Member

    I think any save(whether be past or present),of anything that is Muppety,is a fantastic idea.A whole Muppet/Sesame Street channel would be great.Wish it would happen on regular broadcast though.Cable became to expensive for me to own. :zany:
  19. furryfella

    furryfella New Member

    ITA janice Cable is sometimes too expsenive!! What gets me is why didn't thye do these sort of thing from the start? Now I lvoe Noggin&all But with them Only showing 67 shows out of I don't know How many!! It's Nice that comcast is doing these , so hopefully they will show More of the classic SS from the 70's Instead of stoping mid way through each season like Noggin did.
  20. Mark The Shark

    Mark The Shark New Member

    It was *a lot less* than midway.

    Season 1 (1969-1970): 5 episodes (1-8-43-54-83)
    Season 2 (1970-1971): 4 episodes (131-158-162-198)
    Season 3 (1971-1972): 2 episodes (276-355)
    Season 4 (1972-1973): 2 episodes (406-514)
    Season 5 (1973-1974): 1 episode (536)
    Season 6 (1974-1975): 1 episode (666)
    Season 7 (1975-1976): 2 episodes (796-871)
    Season 8 (1976-1977): 3 episodes (926-1037-1041)
    Season 9 (1977-1978): 7 episodes (6 from the "Hawaii" storyline): 1056-1090-1091-1092-1093-1094-1095
    Season 10 (1978-1979): 1 episode (1186)
    Season 11 (1979-1980): 3 episodes (1316-1364-1396)
    Season 12 (1980-1981): 3 episodes (1446-1563-1575)
    Season 13 (1981-1982): 1 episode (1576)
    Season 14 (1982-1983): 8 episodes (5 from the "Big Bird Goes To Camp" storyline): (1706-1707-1708-1709-1710-1736-1740-1800)
    Season 15 (1983-1984): 3 episodes (1836-1839-1933)
    Season 16 (1984-1985): 3 episodes (2040-2059-2073) (Trivia: Season 16 is the only season whose "Season Premiere" episode, #1966, is not included in the "Unpaved" series)
    Season 17 (1985-1986): 6 episodes (4 from the "Adoption Of Miles" storyline): (2096-2122-2123-2124-2125-2208)
    Season 18 (1986-1987): 4 episodes (2226-2257-2269-2293)
    Season 19 (1987-1988): 4 episodes (2356-2358-2404-2485)
    Season 20 (1988-1989): 4 episodes (2486-2558-2574-2615) (Trivia: the entire "Maria and Luis fall in love, start dating, get married and have a baby" scenario is compressed into the final six "Unpaved" episodes; it seemed really weird to watch all of that occur within one week!)

    I have to say thanks again to Noggin and SW for making these shows available. Although I personally was *very slightly* disappointed, being on the older end of SS fandom, that so few episodes from the years I would have been watching the show were included, with such an emphasis on later episodes from the 1980s. But again, they didn't do this just for me, they did it for everyone, and it is a wealth of classic stuff. And when I finally saw the 1980s material, I did enjoy those episodes for the most part; I feel (in my own subjective opinion) they were still doing good stuff in the 1980s (not like the bulk of the new material in the "123 Sesame Street" episodes, but it's not my intention to pick any "apples vs. oranges" debates with people who might have grown up with that stuff and remember it fondly). :)

    One other thing: Even if SW does have an archive of every episode they've ever done (which seems quite likely from what I've read, though I wonder where they've been keeping it all these years before current technology, when they were all on huge bulky 2-inch videotape which cost about $200 a reel), it is not feasible from any standpoint (economical, logistical or otherwise) to put them *all* out there at one time. As much as you and I might like to have them *all* (although where would we put them; even I don't have 4000 DVDs), remember that a large portion of these episodes consist of segments which repeat over and over and over and over and over, so it's not as much material as it sounds like when someone says "They've done over 4000 shows!" Still, here is a short list (off the top of my head) of significant things I remember which never showed up in any of the "Unpaved" episodes:

    Original version of "I Love Trash"

    Original version of "Bein' Green"

    Original version of "ABC-DEF-GHI-JKL-MNOP-QR-STU-WXYZ"

    No "original" Roosevelt Franklin segments (with Matt Robinson doing Roosevelt's voice) (All the Roosevelt Franklin segments included in "Unpaved" were later ones where Jerry Nelson did Roosevelt's voice, except for that one "Clapping" segment where he didn't speak at all)

    "Mr. Hooper jumping for joy"

    Rest of the "Spies/Racecars," "Falling Baker" and "Pinball" films

    "Rubber Duckie" (though it was shown on "123 Sesame Street")

    Also, I only recall *one* appearance each in the whole series of Sam The Machine (he was a funnier character than that one skit would indicate; I'm not counting one other appearance where he just walks by briefly at the beginning of the show), The Salesman (sometimes unofficially called "Lefty The Salesman") and Sherlock Hemlock (though the latter two probably showed up more in "123 Sesame Street").

    Well, I'm just rambling.

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