In my opinion, yes. They're not what they used to be, and it just seems that they're getting worse as the years go by. Disney's milking them for what little fame they have left. Asking someone about what they think of the Muppets in our world today isn't like asking someone back in the late 70's. Their opinions of them are low, and consider them to be just for elementary viewing. I love the Muppets of the past. Why not just leave it at that? Take a look at MWoO. Despite good ratings for ABC, it was a horrible movie, about as good as Kermit's Swamp Years. The only difference is that I was taping it at the time, and I couldn't skip through it. Now, they're talking about Kermit visiting his 50 favorite places, a Kermit Roast, and a reality show. I mean, seriously. And for me personally, it's hard for me to watch the Muppets with my family any more... my dad, especially. He already thinks that I'm a little old to be watching them, and when something embarrassing like MWoO comes on, that just makes him more right... and I hate it when my dad's right. So Steve, Eric, and whoever else, stop embarrassing yourselves and just let your arms rest; retire, and sit back and watch the stuff from the good days. Heck, the first season of TMS is coming out next month, and Fraggle Rock's after that. You guys aren't that good, and some of you have ruined the personalities of my favorite characters. If you don't feel like retiring, however, watch- and by that, I mean pay attention- to the characters and format of The Muppet Show when (not if, when) all five seasons are released, if you haven't watched them now. You may be surprised at how good the Muppets really were, compared to how terrible you guys sometimes are.