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Some people are so closed minded

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by Don_Music_2004, Jul 9, 2004.

  1. Don_Music_2004

    Don_Music_2004 New Member

    Something I just don't understand about my mother. She's been nagging me about watching Fraggle Rock lately. She tells me it's not normal for a guy in his 20's to be into a little kid's show. She thinks I need psyciatric help. Something she fails to realize is the magic of Fraggle Rock and how deep that show really is. It may be a kid's show, but I think adults can understand it better, cause the messages that show sends out are so powerful. Some of those episodes were very deep and emotional. I will name a few:

    The Minstrels
    The River of Life
    Gone But Not Forgotten
    Change of Address
    Wembley's Wonderful Whoopie Water

    She just doesn't understand the prominent messages sent out from this show's episodes, she has it labeled as a simple little "baby" show. Now how can it be a "baby" show, when a baby wouldn't even understand the serious messages that are being sent out. I just don't get it. Has anyone else ever had these problems with Fraggle Rock?
  2. JaniceFerSure

    JaniceFerSure Active Member

    I haven't personally had problems with the Fraggle Rock situation,like you have but I can relate.If I may be brief. You see,I've watched Muppety mediums(Sesame Street,The Muppet Show) since the early 70s(I still watch Sesame Street).As you can tell by my age,I'm no youngster,lol.I used to watch The Muppet Show & my dad used to say,"There she goes,watching those talking hands again." I watched it anyway,always ignoring him.I've seen basically every Henson creation,not ashamed of if. The way I look at it is point blank,I'm a kid at heart.I've never seen,ever seen anything Muppety(especially The Muppet Show,Fraggle Rock,The Jim Henson Hour,Muppets Tonight,Faffner Hall,etc...) as children's shows(maybe only Sesame Street is). The medium may be 'childish' to our parents,because that is how they understood it when they were young(they were growing up on Howdy Doody & Kukla,Fran & Ollie). Continue to watch Fraggle Rock & be proud! At least you recognize the message,lesson,value,etc... and overall beauty of the show. One thing I can suggest is to let you mom watch Fraggle Rock with you.Describe the Fraggle Universe to her.Tell her why the show makes you feel the way it does.Tell her what you learn from it.Please tell her also,that Fraggle Rock is a human metaphor;teaching about how difference shouldn't matter,that we all need to get along to survive(no matter on your looks,size,smarts,etc...)Good luck. Great to see your a Fraggle Fan!:excited: :smirk:
  3. Sylinde Bren

    Sylinde Bren Member

    Though not nearly as bad, my family and friends share the same outlook on Fraggle Rock as being a kid's show and can't understand why I still watch the Muppets even now that I'm in my early twenties. I'm often told, quite plainly, to 'grow up'. But I never will. I love the Muppets, from Fraggle Rock to The Storyteller and beyond.

    Most people just don't understand the magick of the Muppets. They're blind to it. Instead, they see only what's in front of their face - talking puppets singing and dancing, and to them that's just silly and childish - and silly and childish things should be put away at a certain age, in their mind. It's really not their fault. It just means we're younger at heart.

    Don't stop watching Fraggle Rock. Follow your heart for it always know the right way.
  4. Muppetsdownunder

    Muppetsdownunder New Member

    It annoys me how many people, (non muppet fans) think The muppets are for kids, anyone who knows even a minor bit about the muppets should know that The Muppet Show was more intended for an adult or family audience. You only have to watch a few episodes of the muppet show to see this for yourself. Even Sesame Street which is made for kids is still entertaining to adults and thats the magic of it. there is no age limit when it comes to the muppets!
  5. Danny Horn

    Danny Horn Member

    Andy, you do need psychiatric help. Not because you're a Fraggle fan, but because you have trouble dealing with your anger. You've sent me at least two death threats so far, and I know other people that you've threatened too. I hope your mom succeeds in getting you the help that you need, before you hurt somebody.

    There's no shame in seeing a psychiatrist. I think that would be a big help for you.

    -- Danny
  6. McFraggle

    McFraggle Active Member

    I completely agree Muppetsdownunder. :)
  7. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    So did your mom tell you that too then? :o
  8. McFraggle

    McFraggle Active Member

    :) LOL!
  9. Buck-Beaver

    Buck-Beaver Active Member

  10. BEAKER128

    BEAKER128 New Member

    Luke, what the h.e.l.l. does that mean?
  11. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Hard to get into really without bringing another websites problems over here. Let's just say sometimes the person giving advice is sometimes just as much in need of it themselves ...

    Still, sending death threats is lame and dumb. Never got any myself but i do find that a kill file is very useful when it comes to recieving annoying emails.
  12. Muppetsdownunder

    Muppetsdownunder New Member

    That doesnt sound too friendly if taken the wrong way.
    I guess we all could use some phsyciatric help sometimes though!
  13. BEAKER128

    BEAKER128 New Member

    Oh, I know all about the other's website's problems, Luke, and I think maybe you should look in the mirror when discussing who else might need psychiatric help. Because you do realize that it now seems like you're sticking up for a sociopath who sends death threats and harasses people. Regardless of any petty squabbles you have with Danny, shame on you for dragging them into this discussion, where Andy is clearly the villain. He's a troubled kid who lashes out (disturbingly) at those who don't find his bigotry and offensive remarks acceptable. Do *you* find them acceptable, Luke?
  14. Muppetsdownunder

    Muppetsdownunder New Member

    This is a funny thread, its like the Jerry Springer Show!
  15. BEAKER128

    BEAKER128 New Member

    Except we have a mastery of the English language, which is rare for the Springer Show. And for much of MC, actually. :halo:
  16. Muppetsdownunder

    Muppetsdownunder New Member

    Well most of us can type which is more than most people on that show could do.
  17. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    I speak for myself thanks, not sticking up for anyone. It was a bit of a cheap shot Danny left himself open to but then i'm sure he's taken enough at me in his time. That aside, is there ANY proof or even hard evidence this actually is Andy? If there is then cool, of course i don't support that kinda thing and that person shouldn't be here but alternatively if Danny just came over and may have taken a shot at some innocent person who started an ok thread which isn't harming anyone then he isn't exactly the victim here.
  18. AndyWan Kenobi

    AndyWan Kenobi Active Member

    :) : "some with honors, some with the help of daily psychological counseling..."

    :halo:

    Anyway, back on topic, never be ashamed of liking what you like. It's always too bad when other people have to rain on your parade for enjoying something wholeheartedly... I wish more people were secure enough to embrace what they love without worrying about being judged for it--seems like we've all learned that lesson here. :)
  19. Phillip

    Phillip Administrator Staff Member

    The identity of "Don_Music_2004" has been looked into and appropriate action has be taken.

    We don't need this to turn into a back and forth situation. There are great people at Tough Pigs, just like there are great people at Muppet Central. Unfortunately, there are some visitors at both sites who for whatever the reason get their kicks from rocking the boat. This isn't a MC/TP debate, it's about the safety and well-being of the members of both sites. That is what is important here. If this discussion continues to turn into attacks toward others, then it will be closed.

    If anyone does receive harassing e-mail either through Tough Pigs or Muppet Central, let Danny or myself know. We can't take care of a situation if we don't know about it.
  20. McFraggle

    McFraggle Active Member

    Well said Phillip.

    By the way, did you get my e-mail about starting up a new game.


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