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Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by GonzoMan, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    Just move on with this please.
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  2. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member

    100% agree with this. This is really old and should you pack it in now.Steve's kermit is muppet history now and Matt is the present
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  3. Muppetboy09

    Muppetboy09 Well-Known Member

    You have to realize that nobody in this thread has been protesting Disney's move anymore. Whether we agree or disagree, it's been over one year since the event actually took place, most of Steve's characters have been recast, and it's pretty much a done deal. All opinions aside, there is no way Steve is coming back at this point.
  4. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    Yeah. From that clip I can see where Artie's Kermit had potential. (I don't think I heard that one before, but there was definitely some improvement there since his Kermit voice on AGT.)

    Also a good idea, to post a new voice comparison. The old Muppet Voice Comparison page hasn't been updated in years and since then we got Matt Vogel as the Count, Billy and Peter as Ernie, Steph as Prairie and Jennifer as Zoe. The list goes on and on. So and updated MVC page would be a nice idea. Just a thought.

    But I do agree with the above comments, what's done is done. So it's best to just accept it and move on.
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  5. mbmfrog

    mbmfrog Well-Known Member

    I know Jim did a lot of various character voices over the years, but does anyone think that Matt can handle not only Kermit, but also Big Bird, Count and the other Jerry Nelson characters ?

    I mean I know that there's plans for some of Jerry's Sesame Street Characters outside Count, but with that much work load for one guy to handle. Plus what happens when scenes require BOTH characters at the same time ?
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  6. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Same as always. Someone else stands in for one character. The two performers switch off for different takes. ADR is done where needed. It's not hard, just maybe a bit more time consuming. Also, there's no saying if Matt will get all of Jerry's characters - or just who, if anyone, is getting recast - save for Mr. Johnson and Herry, obviously. There's been speculation that Mumford might have been recast with John Kennedy, but that's merely based on a cast photo, and not official confirmation.
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  7. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    You know,

    If Jim were still kicking today, and let's say he got fired from the Muppets and Steve was the replacement...

    I wonder what that would be like.
  8. ErinAardvark

    ErinAardvark Well-Known Member

    I shudder to think!

    Anyway, what I think about a scene involving both Kermit and Constantine at the same time (which they've done), they voice loop and someone else takes over the movements for Kermit and/or Constantine if need be.
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  9. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Someone asked Frank Oz on his Reddit AMA yesterday about his thoughts on the Steve issue, this is what he had to say:

    "I'm just very sad about what happened with Steve. I'm not privy to the reasons. I'm not part of Disney. As I understand it, the reasons had nothing to do with performing. When Steve was on the set he was always a joy to work with. So it saddens me that something outside of performing caused this to happen. It just saddens me, that's all."
  10. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Frank's own words. Perhaps whoever said that he too wasn't fond of Steve or agreed with the decision he needed to go was trying to rub salt in the wound and add fuel to the fire.
  11. ErinAardvark

    ErinAardvark Well-Known Member

    Sounds like just about everyone on the Internet these days.......
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  12. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Like some members on this forum that I know...
  13. Prof Bunsen

    Prof Bunsen Well-Known Member

    Again, I had mixed feelings about the decision, but as I stated before, Disney and JHP are both private entities that can do whatever they want. I'm sorry that it turned out bad for Steve, but hopefully he continues on with his career and maybe even launch his own team of puppeteers. Think of it as a promotion, as a way to move on.

    That being said, I'm all for closing this thread, because this is kinda old news by this point. All we can do is just wish Matt a warm welcome to the new characters he will now voice, and just hope Steve still continues to make a new name for himself. After all, Frank Oz is now a successful director, still does Yoda for the Star Wars franchise, and has been a major contributor to Pixar, and has said in interviews that Eric Jacobsen has done a good job trying to replicate the life and soul into what were his Muppets. So hopefully Steve will still go a successful route post-Muppets.
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  14. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    How much are you guys willing to bet this thread will still be stickied in July 2018?
  15. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Nah. Threads seem to become stickied unexpectedly anymore.
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  16. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member

    I wonder who????
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  17. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    It's a mystery... :search:
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  18. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member

    It will never be solved...
  19. MelissaY1

    MelissaY1 Well-Known Member

    Frank Oz is NOW a successful director? So the rest of his directing career meant nothing? He's been doing directing with Jim since the 60s on Jim's experimental/non-Muppet work and has had many successful films since. I'm confused by your comment...
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  20. MelissaY1

    MelissaY1 Well-Known Member

    Agreed. If we couldn't get "the Muppets" renewed for a second season on ABC and still cant' get Disney to release the rest of the Muppet Show on DVD, why would they hire people back on fan's wishes?
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