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Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by GonzoMan, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. Muppetboy09

    Muppetboy09 Well-Known Member

    Take this as you will, but "muppetmaker" on Reddit (who has been identified as Dan Becker of "Getting Felt Up Puppetry Podcast") said the following about this statement:
     
  2. gavry3

    gavry3 Well-Known Member

    Yep. No matter, though.
     
  3. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I'd like to think that it's Steve, but fans 'round these parts are not the most sound people sometimes (no offense).
     
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  4. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    It seems like I can't get to Tough Pigs now. Hopefully whatever's going on will resolve soon and I can read it.

    I just realized: Matt's first public performance as Kermit will be in an online video, and the first time we heard Matt as The Count was in an online video.

    I keep joking in my head that Matt has taken over 65 percent of all recent (current?) recasts.... But then again, you could say that Jerry Nelson (who he's primarily taken over characters of) performed 65 percent or more of the Muppets.

    It's also interesting that this news came out on Jerry Nelson's birthday.
     
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  5. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Too much traffic, I'm guessing. Looks like ToughPigs has unintentionally moved away from being a simple little fan site this week!
     
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  6. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Well I have been able to read it now.
     
  7. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

  8. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    While I thought it was odd that Whitmire would retire, last night I thought of a quote from Frank Oz on why he's distanced himself from the Muppets to direct, where he said something like "when you've done the same thing for over 30 years, eventually you want to do something else", and started wondering if that was the case with Whitmire. But then I saw the blog post and now know that he was forced out of the Muppets.

    I wonder if any of the other performers thought about leaving. I'm glad that they didn't, and I can't decide whether it's odd that they have stayed despite it (to be loyal) or not (they might need the work, but then again, many of them are currently active with Sesame Street as well).
     
  9. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Okay, I'd mentioned that I recently saw a video a few weeks ago with Kermit talking about the beginning of Summer, with Whitmire as Kermit, and thought it was new, and was surprised that nobody'd mentioned that online, but now I decided to watch it again and saw that it was posted in 2015 (I guess I saw it posted on Facebook and thought it was new, must have either missed it when it debuted or forgot about it).
     
  10. rexcrk

    rexcrk Well-Known Member

    Wasn't Steve performing Link in those new Pigs in Space videos? Unless of course they were recorded before October 2016.

    That's really a bummer though. I'm curious to know what reasons they have to be unhappy with Steve's performances. And was it just with Kermit? Or as a performer in general? I mean, I don't know how comfortable they all would've been if Steve got fired as just Kermit but stuck around as at least Rizzo.
     
  11. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    It's common knowledge that those were produced back in May 2015. In fact, it's known that there's three additional ones that have yet to be seen.
     
  12. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Well-Known Member

    Oh. I thought those were pretty recent. After :)'s absence in the Thanksgiving Day parade, I was relieved to see that Steve was still active with the Muppets. I had no idea that those were a few years old.
     
  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

  14. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    I'm honestly not sure how to process all this. I'm not angry at Disney, but i'm just sad and baffled by their decisions. And like I mentioned in an earlier post, i'm really scared this could happen to any of the other performers.
     
  15. muppetperson

    muppetperson Well-Known Member

    So that now raises the question as to why Disney felt the need to recast?
    Where they not happy with Steve's performances?
     
  16. mbmfrog

    mbmfrog Active Member

    I know Disney OWNS the Muppets, but shouldn't the Jim Henson Company have a small say in this or two, given that it was Jim's legacy and his own children that thought Steve should do :) in the first place if history serves me right ?
     
  17. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Not necessarily; JHC has nothing to do with the Classic Muppets anymore, so they wouldn't have any say in this, just like they had nothing to do or say with the two new movies or the ABC series.
     
  18. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    I remember Steve doing a MuppetCast shortly after the America's Got Talent event in '09. He did his best to discuss the matter without accidentally speaking out of line, but the gist of what he said was "I don't own these characters, so I don't decide who does and doesn't perform them."
     
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2017
  19. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I believe they still provide archival costume outfits and puppets, but I think that's as far as it goes.
     
  20. LeahXZoot4Evur

    LeahXZoot4Evur Well-Known Member

    Words can't say how deeply upset and devastated I am that one of my favorite Muppeteers of the Muppets, Steve Whitmire, will no longer be in the Muppets. The way he says that he's dissapointed that he didn't impress his own hero of himself really broke and melted my heart completely. All of the Muppet World, including myself, are shaken and heartbroken of Steve leaving. The Muppets will never be the same again without Steve Whitmire performing Rizzo the Rat, Kermit the Frog, Beaker, and my favorite of his, Lips the trumpeteer of the Electric Mayhem....
     

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