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Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by GonzoMan, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. 1000 Eyes

    1000 Eyes Well-Known Member

    True, but while they helped build it up, Steve, as Kermit, helped keep it alive.

    Besides, what would Fraggle Rock be without Wembley? And can you imagine anyone else in that role?
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  2. Bliffenstimmers

    Bliffenstimmers Active Member

    I can imagine Kevin Clash or Peter Linz as a Wembley or Rizzo. Not to say they can do it for certain, but they have a lot of energy and almost the right vocal range for such characters...
  3. JT Yorke

    JT Yorke Active Member

    Would Kevin Clash even consider working for the muppets again?
  4. Bliffenstimmers

    Bliffenstimmers Active Member

    I know he's been doing other little projects, but after the allegations and his resignation from Sesame Workshop, I think he's better off doing little projects. But if all of that didn't happen, it'd be great.
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  5. Censored

    Censored Well-Known Member

    Or Matt Vogel.
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  6. ErinAardvark

    ErinAardvark Well-Known Member

    From what I've heard Matt Vogel do, I don't think he'd be right for Wembley. Just my opinion, though.
  7. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Pretty sure it was meant to be a joke.
  8. Censored

    Censored Well-Known Member

    Wembley is a Muppet and Matt is a professional Muppeteer. I’m sure he could have done it if the situation was presented to him.
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  9. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Well in my humble opinion Wembley, Rizzo, Bean, and any other character Steve has preformed, and helped create should remain silent. Until Steve can either come back or pick who he would like to take over the character for him.
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  10. DarthGonzo

    DarthGonzo Active Member

    Bean hasn't just been silent for what seems like an eternity. He's been completely gone. With Whitmire also gone, any chance of Bean ever coming back is completely nil.

    Why do people keep acting like he's an active character in need of recasting?
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  11. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Bean was in the background quite often, but mostly as a "victim," as Steve once put it: like how when carrying a cake, Piggy slams the door in his face, squishing him into the wall.
  12. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    I disagree. They can bring him back anyway.

    Besides, I've heard that the majority of Steve's characters (Statler, Rizzo, Beaker, Link, Lips, Newsman, etc.) are being taken over by Peter Linz. And whenever they decide to bring back Bean, I bet they'd give him to Linz as well.
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  13. muppetgem

    muppetgem Well-Known Member

    Here we go again....
  14. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    Who did you hear this from?
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  15. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I don't know if it's been discussed here (there's so many posts to go through), but I've been thinking about Vogel taking over as Kermit, I wondered if he felt right doing so after how Whitmire was fired, there's a discussion threat at Tough Pigs started by somebody who is disappointed in Vogel over this, but today I started wondering if he knew Whitmire was actually fired at the time he agreed to take over as Kermit. When Whitmire's departure was first announced publicly, it was said that he'd retired, before we learned the truth, and Whitmire said in his Today interview that Disney wanted him to sign a form that stated he retired. Could it be that Vogel thought he left on his own but now doesn't want to take over as Kermit (and could that have a part in that Muppet Thought of the Week video being delayed)?
  16. xSunnyEclipse

    xSunnyEclipse Active Member

    I doubt it.

    They're probably the first people that knew he got fired and that they would have to recast his characters. They wouldn't just lie to the other performers and say "Oh Steve just left on his own! Don't worry about it!"
  17. 1000 Eyes

    1000 Eyes Well-Known Member

    Pardon me, but how is it faulty logic?
  18. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Well that's very interesting!

    I know that for a long time there where talks that they where going to keep Rowlf silent after Jim's passing out of respect. I think there should be that same kind of respect in place for Richard, and Jerry, and now Steve. They are the ones that created these characters they should have some say at what happens.

    on a side note I want to encourage everyone to read this:

  19. Censored

    Censored Well-Known Member

    Should Kermit have been kept silent too?
  20. Rugratskid

    Rugratskid Active Member

    Little late on this, but figured I'd put my thoughts in anyways.

    Wembley is a really hard character to truly replicate/recreate, in my opinion... Steve really found a fine line between (in terms of voice, anyway) overly raspy/squeaky, and and almost a childlike sense of whimsy and indecisiveness, which lent itself to a higher voice. To try and redraw that line between the two with another performer, regardless of how talented, will create a hard challenge.

    As someone who's attempted (and failed, for the most part) to perform Wembley on seeral ocassions (videos are still on MC in the Fraggle forum, if anyone's interested; they're outdated, but meh), I can verify (at least for me) how difficult finding that line can be. Just a fans perspective on his favorite Henson created character, I suppose. :p

    I've heard Clash performed him in late 2016, actually, so take that as you will (during a celebration for Dave Goelz).
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