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The 10 Worst Muppets?

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by bsumner, Jan 2, 2010.

  1. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    So I guess I should be kicked off the forum for not liking Robin then.

    Edit: I want to add that I don't hate him, I'm just indifferent of him
  2. TripleG

    TripleG Member

    Wow, that list is mean. He disses Janice, Scooter, Bunsen Honeydew, AND Bobo, who has become one of my favorite newer additions to the Muppets.

    I actually had a hard time myself coming up with 10 Muppets that I don't like at least a little bit. But here are my answers:

    First of all, I have to say that I actually like Pepe. He isn't one of my favorites, & I know he's polarizing among fans, but I think he's funny.

    10) Robin = I don't hate Robin, but I can live without him. He is an overly cutesy character that, as the article says, probably would have been better suited for Sesame Street, but he had his moments.

    9) Hilda = Again, I never hated her, but she felt unnecessary to the show and ultimately wasn't missed after season 1 of the Muppet Show.

    8) Lips = An unnecessary addition to the already perfect Electric Mayhem.

    7) George the Janitor = He's no Beauregard.

    6) Skeeter = I'm cheating here since she was only featured in Muppet Babies, an animated show, but I never liked her character. It felt like her only point was to have another girl on the show just to make sure Miss Piggy isn't the only one. But at the end of the day, she was only girl Scooter, so who cares? I was never a big fan of Muppet Babies, even as a kid, mainly because it was just a cartoon, so I look back on her even worse because of it, lol.

    5) Miss Mousy = I think she was supposed to be the precursor to Annie Sue Pig as Piggy's innocent rival, but she was such a non-presence even in the episode that featured her. And she looked like she was wearing a grandmother's nightgown so she didn't really feel like much of a threat to Piggy from a visual aspect. I mean Piggy must be very insecure if she's threatened by that.

    This one might be controversial but....

    4) Gonzo in Season 1 of the Muppet Show = OK, I love Gonzo as he is now. He might even be my favorite Muppet period. However, going back and watching Season 1, its easy to see that they had a rough time developing him as a character. First of all, the early Gonzo puppet was very unpleasant to look at and he was an unappealing character. They seemed to make him a pretentious artist that was misunderstood. I love that they eventually turned him into a very manic & crazy thrill seeking daredevil, and new more expressive look really benefited him too, but this early incarnation did fit the mold of the show. Thankfully they developed him into something much better.

    3) Mr. Poodlepants = Yeah...just look at that thing. LOOK AT IT!!!!

    2) Clifford = I'm not even sure what to think of this character. I take one look at him and I think its (unintentionally) offensively racist, ha ha. It feels like they wanted a Muppet with a stereotypical "African American" personality, and it just didn't gel with the other characters.

    1) Bean Bunny = Obnoxious little runt, isn't he? lol. I was happy to read that even those in the Henson company "loved to hate him". The Muppets are cute in of themselves, but if you can actually create one that is so cute he's annoying, that's just amazing.
  3. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    10 wayne and wanda kind of dumb dont like
    9 robin
    8 lips
    7 skeeter
    6 bean bunny
    5 manama na song with the guy the snowths are ok
  4. DramaQueenMokey

    DramaQueenMokey Well-Known Member

    I have to admit that I love Clifford, he's so cool and slick! I love characters like that :) (especially Clifford <3)

    And Pepe's alright in my book because he's a little prick everyone can hate on but then again, he's got a heart somewhere behind his 2 faced-ness.

    Also, Scooter has always been a favorite Muppet of mine! He's so genuine, but he's not just some wannabe star struck kid because he knows how to get his way by throwing in that whole 'my uncle owns the theater'. And it was mentioned that he was the band's manager in TMM, that makes him rather important!
    (emphasis on important)

    I love Robin, absolutely, positively love him...those who don't have no hearts.

    Janice is not talent-less! Valley girl may be her character, but she can play guitar and sing! Not to mention that Nurse Janice On Vet's Hospital is such a joy to watch!

    As for Bunsen, he's so much fun! He knows his experiments are out there and that's why Beaker tests them, which is all part of the fun!

    However, Poodlepants, Waldo and Wayne and Wanda belong on the worst Muppets list. The bear-looking Muppets shouldn't even count as they really seemed more like whatnots in the sense that they just filled space during Manhattan Melodies in MTM.
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  5. Speed Tracer

    Speed Tracer Well-Known Member

    This list is BUPKISS (sp?). How does Robin make it - undeservingly, I'll add! If you hate Robin, you hate cute! - but not Andy and Randy? FOOLISH!
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  6. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    Well Randy and Andy are OK, I mean stupidy makes them funny.
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Do international characters count?

    I'm adding in Garibaldo and Gugu from Vila Sesamo... ONLY because of how ugly they look. Gugu especially...
  8. Randall Flagg

    Randall Flagg Well-Known Member

    For putting Pepe on this list, I'm going to beat you like a bad, bad donkey. H'okay?
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  9. LamangoNumber2

    LamangoNumber2 Well-Known Member

    You people crack me up...
    Obviously the worse muppet is the Elmo/Bean hybrid that is Billy Bunny...
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  10. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    Well...Actually I'd say big mean carl. he's the only muppet that hasn't made me laugh yet...
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Wait are you saying the worst Muppet is Nobody as in the floating face

    or Nobody as in there's no worst Muppet?

    Cuz I'm no fan of him either.
  12. DramaQueenMokey

    DramaQueenMokey Well-Known Member

    I would just like to clear up that the only reason I think Wayne and Wanda belong on the list is because of Wayne. Wayne is the one who ruins them.

    However, I like Wanda <3 She's cute ^^
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  13. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    Okay, here's my list.
    Worst Muppets from 10 (wouldn't last as a main character) to 1 (WORST EVER)

    10. Mr. Poodlepants: He's a great gag character, but not a character that can last as a main character. Even though he's never really had a role that lasted beyond sketches, it's best that it stays that way.

    9. Lindbergh: Just wasn't a funny character. But he wasn't on the screen too long.

    8. Semore: It's a comedy team sort of thing. Without Pepe he's nothing, without him Pepe's nothing. (In my opinion)

    7. Angelo: It's just a Politically Correct Italian version of Swedish Chef except he's not goofy, or the least bit funny. Kind of like Pepe. (No offense to Pepe fans)

    6. Walter: Okay I admit, it's sort of a High School situation. Don't pick on the new guy before you get to know them. I'm just taking a gamble on the new guy before he becomes a beyond the movie character. LOL

    5. Bobo: He was funny on Muppets Tonight because he was such a lazy security guard, but afterwords. Ugh.

    4. Rizzo: okay, I admit, he's not a terrable character. He can be funny in The Muppet Christmas Carol, Muppets Take Manhattan, and Muppet Treasure Island. And he's great with Gonzo. And he was good on Muppets Tonight, good not great. It's just that I can only take so much of him. Him and Pepe together, (sigh) I rather see more of the classic characters.

    3. Bean Bunny: I personally can stand Bean a heck of a lot more than Elmo (shivers), it's like a character you can only stand for so long. Plus he was from Tale of The Bunny Picnic (Don't even get me started with this special. LOL), but it was funny when he came to The Muppets on The Jim Henson Hour - Muppet Christmas Carol and the characters can't stand him either. Kind of like Elmo in the 80s episodes of Sesame, similar situation.

    2. Hilda: She wasn't even funny to me. I always found her to be just plain mean and unlikeable. She always was mean to Gonzo and Fozzie, ALWAYS! Thank God she got dropped from the show after season 1.

    1. Pepe: I just find him annoying now. I wouldn't feel this way much if they just brought back Semore. But we all know Brian Henson is off doing Stuffed and Unstrung.
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I contend the fact that Angelo was created because the Swedish Chef would be completely watered down and confined in that situation to basically handing the wrong instrument to Cat Cora, nodding his head in agreement to random things, and repeating what she says in mock Swedish. Somehow, there was some internal politics or something that suggested that kind of Swedish Chef wouldn't have worked, and Angelo basically came out of a Photoshopping job, replacing the Chef in the D23 promos. Which is why the puppet looks a little bland.

    Let's face it... that whole series was concept over substance... I think they did the best they could with it, and the interstitials in the middle of the episodes (Franenfurterstein, the Snoogie) were the highlights of the project.

    Angelo wasn't Politically Correct, he was completely and utterly stifled as a character. The World's Biggest Sandwich episode showed that the character could break easily under pressure, and we SHOULD have seen more of that. Thing ended the next episode. other than that, I found Angelo to probably be a parody of those BAD cooking shows where there's more than one chef, and all one of them does is make bad jokes, and laugh at the one who's really cooking's even worse jokes. I've seen a couple of them, and that's a couple too many. Other than that, I'm disappointed Tyler Bunch didn't do anything more with the character. he usually plays such wacky bombastic characters... like Dr. Nitwhite on Between the Lions. If only Angelo was as egotistical and easily frustrated as that.
  15. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I agree. And one of the things that I've noticed about Muppet characters is that most of the greatest characters are dysfunctional. Kermit has Anger Management problems, Miss Piggy's aggressive, Animal is primitive, Fozzie is insecure, etc. And it just seems like new characters don't have that anymore. Even Sesame back in their hayday had this Muppet formula. Heck, even Elmo was a character that annoyed all the other characters back in the 80s. But now new characters are just flat, duel and bland. You can only have so many straight-men, need more gag characters and more humorous and likable characters.

    I remember when I first saw a picture of Angelo and I showed the picture to my best friend, he thought he looked like he was from Sesame and not from The Muppets probably because the Muppet design style changed by the time of The Muppet Show and not as simple like it was before it.
  16. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I honestly can't remember what Mr. Poodlepants even did. He had a large role in, what, 3 sketches over the course of the show? I won't say he's a terrible character because he was barely one to begin with. If anything, he was just a useless one.
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I completely disagree that all new characters are flat. I found Johnny and Sal to be a complete delight of how they play off of everyone else and themselves, I think VanNeuter was a brilliant bit. It's just that Angelo came out of weird problems of a weird concept. A cooking show where you don't actually cook, but you can't do anything all that fun with it. They gave it their best shot, in the end it could have been much better... but even then, much better wouldn't have been all that memorable either. There was no room for conflict half the time, and that's what builds comedy. If Angelo either got easily frustrated or had some issues with any of the characters (like he sorta kinda did with Andy and Randy in the last one) there would have been something there. Even if he had some sort of rivalry with the Chef, there would have been something there...

    Like this artist's rendering...


    But the show demanded the culinary endeavors (save the sandwich) prove successful. Why is the Swedish Chef funny? His goofy accent? No! The fact that everything he cooks either blows up, attacks him, or angrily gets up and walks away. And when it doesn't, he takes things all too literally. Had Angelo screwed up in the kitchen and reacted to it more, it would have been a solid character and a funny show.
  18. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    Oh okay, I see what your getting at now. Yeah, I agree. Characters playing off of each other and getting all fusterated. Yeah, that defiantly would've made the show more funnier. Kind of like Ernie & Bert where you have character's that are completely opposite clash. So in this case Angelo would be more of the straight-man but in this case it would be funnier if he had anger management problems and of course The Swedish Chef doing what he does best like what it shows in that drawing. Really funny by the way. LOL

    But yeah, I didn't really mean that all new characters where flat strictly believing that. Just lately with Angelo and Walter. I love the Muppets Tonight characters, I thought they were really hilarious and true to The Muppet universe of characters.
    Sorry about the little mix up there.
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Walter's future appearances depend on how the movie goes. I have no doubt we'd see him again, but he'd definitely be a second or third string character. Angelo, however, was a one time thing. He isn't even being recycled as a background puppet.
  20. Great Gommzo

    Great Gommzo Active Member

    I can't stand Rizzo personally, and the fact he featured so prominently in the later muppet movies ruined them for me. Yet characters that used to be main players - Rowlf, Scooter etc barely featured at all.
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