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The "Adventure Time" Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Pig's Laundry, Oct 28, 2015.

  1. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    There's a thread on here for almost all of the current Cartoon Network shows but I was shocked to learn that there wasn't one for Adventure Time. And with the seventh season starting next week,I figured this was the perfect time to start. This season will kick off with a week of new episodes starting November 2. It will also feature a seven part mini series about Marceline and we're finally going to see her mother ,played by Rebecca Sugar. http://www.geek.com/news/adventure-time-season-7-sneak-peek-and-a-marceline-miniseries-1636372/
     
  2. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    I really like the mishmash of different cultures and fantasy elements in this universe. You have medieval candy castles juxtaposed with classical horror elements and modern-day stuff, and so much more. It really does allow for a lot of flexibility in terms of storytelling.

    I also appreciate how dark and emotionally charged this show can get, like the two-part "Holly Jolly Secrets" that revealed Ice King's tragic backstory, or "I Remember You" that touches on Marceline's youth, later followed up on with "Simon & Marcy". And, of course, the episodes done by guest animators that change up the art style.
     
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Say what? How come none of the good shows from CN's golden era ever got a seventh season?
    Since I don't watch ADVENTURE TIME, I really know nothing of this Marceline except that I've once been told that the titular character of my VAMPIRE GIRL webcomic miniseries bears resemblance to Marceline. I . . . really see no resemblance.

    But you know what I really dislike? How practically everything from the past is suddenly "where ADVENTURE TIME came from." Seriously. Rocky and Bullwinkle? Wallace and Gromit? Peabody and Sherman? Pufnstuf and Jimmy? Even Tom Terrific and Mighty Manfred? Practically every adventure-seeking cartoon duo from decades past, everybody today looks at them and are like, "Oh, so that's where ADVENTURE TIME came from!" It's almost as annoying as looking through comments of nostalgic shows, movies, cartoons, what have you on YouTube and seeing countless, "FAMILY GUY brought me here!" comments.
     
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That's where the show really gets me. While it does have a quirky and kind of cute atmosphere, it's a Cerebus Rollercoaster that doesn't shy away from being horrifying or disturbing, or in other cases depressing as heck. It took one of the wackiest characters and gave him a depressing depth thus turning him into one of the deepest written characters in the series, and maybe in modern animation in general. This show could have easily just been a boy and his crazy Plastic-Man type dog having wacky adventures in a cartoony kingdom and it still would have been enjoyable and fun. But by making a show full of emotions and depth, this show ushered in a new era for television animation, especially at a time where these shake ups were needed most.

    Adventure Time came at a crossroads for CN. Management shifts because of the Boston Mooninite Lite Brite scare hammered the network, all the while Disney Channel's tween-centric programming was somehow choking the animation industry. They sabotaged their CN originals line up with weak cartoons like Camp Lazlo (which by no means is a bad show, just kinda disappointing when you think about who it came from) and My Gym Partner is a Monkey (perhaps the laziest, unfunniest thing to come out of a CN original). Those failures (ones they pretty much orchestrated) lead to CN's live action rebrand with that awful stereotypical kiddycom that, quite honestly could have had potential for something, but turned into the old "stuffy principal falls into messy things" type kidcom that I just can't abide. Then they had two better originals with Chowder and Flapjack, but CN just couldn't wait to sabotage those for their next biggest blunder. That's right. The AWFUL reality shows lifted from Discovery Kids' 2005 line up. Their general poorness, and lack of an audience speaks for themselves. Yet they kept pushing these cheap to produce piles of crap while ignoring every bleeding sign they should have abandoned it in the first place.

    Then came Adventure Time. And trust me when I say this. We wouldn't have any of the major cartoons here or on The Disney Channel (or rather, XD) if it wasn't for this show. Finally. They had a reason to get kids over the age of 12 to watch cartoons and count them as the demographic. AT was the first show that proved Tweens can watch animated programming and didn't have to greenlight substandard Saved by the Bell knockoffs to get that demo. And that show in turn lead to Regular Show, Gumball, Uncle Grandpa, Clarence, Steven Universe and actually going back to the CN original programming that they since abandoned. So the popularity of the show pretty much saved the state of animation.

    And as a result of that popularity and still being overly cautious about their line up, that's why AT got another renewal. They don't want to stray too far from the comfort zone. And for once, it's actually helping the network more than hurting it.
     
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  5. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Oh man you really need to see this show it's amazing. If you like STEVEN UNIVERSE,CLARENCE and We Bare Bears, you will love this show. Although bare in mind that this show is a bit more abstract so it might take a little getting used to. But the tone of this show can shift from cute to funny,dramatic,sad and scary all in a matter of minues. I especially recommend watching the first season and the episode "It Came from the Nightosphere".
     
  6. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Regular Show is also getting a seventh season.
     
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    He's made it clear he's not a fan of this series, and much more a fan of 1990's CN series. And that's okay by me. I'd say that someone who's inclined to like shows like Recess, hey Arnold, and Arthur may want to give Clarence a chance, though.
     
  8. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Oh I see,that's okay then. I think this is the best era of cartoons since the 90s,maybe even better, but you like what you like.:) Although one does wonder how many episodes he's seen of these shows to actually judge them.
     
  9. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Part of my problem with post-2003 CN shows is how whenever they came along, they were suddenly and instaneously adored by the network, and at a Dexter/PPG level of adoration: it started when KND ended up becoming to CN what RUGRATS was to Nick in the 90s (and SpongeBob now) - it was cool at first, and it had an awesome premise that would certainly appeal to kids of any ages, but it got the heck promoted out of it all the time, and even ended up getting a number of one-shot specials that no other CN show had gotten previously (except for maybe A JOHNNY BRAVO CHRISTMAS). Then soon Billy and Mandy started getting the same kind of special treatment as well that it otherwise never had during the Cartoon Cartoon days. Even ensuing shows that followed like Foster's and Lazlo got all kinds of specials and even TV-movies and "event" episodes that none of the original Cartoon Cartoons ever got before. And don't even get me started about merchandising - we've gone over that before: we were lucky to get fast food premiums for Cow and Chicken, Courage, Sheep, and the Eds; PPG and Dexter were really the only CN shows that got decent merchandising at the time (EEE at least got a couple of random DVDs among other things). It's almost as if once CN entered their Cartoon Network City era, suddenly they decided they actually gave a care about their shows, and decided they were going to no longer take them for granted as contractually obligated 52-episode programs. All that just rubs me the wrong way.

    On another note, do cable cartoons even still follow the 13-episode season pattern anymore? I heartell some cable cartoons have as little as 8-10 episodes a season now, but some have upwards of 15-20.
     
  10. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    Hate to say it but, I have agreed with Snowthy about the season 7 of AT & RS. Granted the only CN shows I still watch is Steven Universe & Gumball. The season 7 thing bugs me the only classic CN show that got that was Grim only because of specials. Plus I did like the shows at first but, then I became bored with the shows later on sort of like how I became with P&F. Also, AT became ridiculous with their merchandise like Spongebob, such as a Monopoly game, really. Also about Clarance, his voice bugs me and the creator thing, I'm agreeing with Mr. Enter on that one. Sorry for this rant, I need to blow off some stem.
     
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  11. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Weasel was surprisingly the first CN show to go beyond four seasons and 52 episodes, but that's on a technicality: it had four seasons and 52 episodes as part of Cow and Chicken, then it got an additional season on its own when the two shows split. Dexter, PPG, and EEE went beyond 52 episodes because they were legit smash hits and their popularity was their saving grace (Courage almost got the same consideration, but it wasn't enough); I think the deal with Johnny was because the original creator returned to the show after it was initially ended.

    Sorry for derailing the topic.
     
  12. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Well it shouldn't bother you too much,someone completely different is in charge of the channel now then their was back then.
     
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The creator of Clarence didn't do much on the show. He was easily replaceable, and even before the sexual harassment and assaults, none of the writing staff liked him. Punishing the show for the actions of one jerk vs. the rest of the well behaved talented staff that actually did the real writing doesn't make sense to me. He was fired, he was replaced, he's not working in mainstream animation ever again. Still don't see why they didn't "John K" his name off the creator credit though.

    When it comes to CN, my beef is with TTG. Now, I actually dig this show, and if this is the worst thing the network has to offer currently, it's still a heck of a lot better than reality programs, dated internet video characters, or...eh...Johnny Test (which is still on Boomerang). My problems with it aren't exactly the same as the rest of the internet. I actually get a sick kick out of the show screwing with the original series' fanbase. But my beef is that they go to so many episodes where they're like Peter Griffin and become obsessed with one stupid thing and act like idiots for 11 minutes, but above all, the fact that it's their Spongebob. They run it every freaking chance they get. They made comedic sociopaths the goodwill ambassadors to Anti-Bullying initiatives. Despite all logical sense, they went purely by their overpopularity with the younger demographics. I'm glad Wabbit and Be Cool Scooby-Doo are adding more variety to the line up, but running that many Titans episodes a day is just...ugh.
     
  14. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    just a heads up, NEW EPISODE OF ADVENTURE TIME ON TONIGHT.
     
  15. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Tonight's episode was really nice,I loved the music. I like how the season premieres always have something to do with the previous episode,i'd completely forgotten about the whole King of Oo thing and Bubblegum's name being Bonnie. it was neat to finally see Bubblegum's origins as well as her brother Neddy who was sort of cute,funny and annoying all at the same time.Looks like something they'll certainly revisit soon. Adam Muto has said this season will be less "heavy" then last season,which is a relief. You can already kind of feel the tone of the show lighten up a little even with the aftermath of Season six's finale being quite evident.
     
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Wow. They wasted no time in pealing away the mystery of how P-Bubs came to be. Kinda takes the mystique out of it, but they had to reveal that sometime.
     
  17. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Well I definitely like how they gradually end story arcs over time,unlike some shows that try to wrap up every single plot thread in the series finale causing an extremely rushed and unsatisfying ending. Though between learning about PB's origins and the fact that we'll get 8 episodes that basically cover all of Marceline's life story,and the whole learning more and more about Finn's past last season, it sort of seems like we may be nearing the end.
     
  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Well... Mama Said was... ehhh... a special episode, wasn't it?

    Really think the best part of the episode was the giant mushroom giving out various mushroom facts in a robotic voice while it was attacking Finn and Jake. Surprised the bit about Kombutcha managed to sneak in. That's alcoholic, right?

    The Football episode was a real psychological thriller. Most unexpected, even for this show. There's some insightful perspective in BMO's madness, and I hope that is the next thing they unravel. Either he has a multiple personality disorder, or there's something deeper going on here.
     
  19. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    I really don't know what to make of the last minute or so of Mama Said. Was that random cover at the end seriously the only reason for the title of this episode ??
     
  20. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    So has anyone seen the Marceline mini series yet?
     


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