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The Buildings of SS

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by Fozzie Bear, Jun 4, 2006.

  1. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Well, in the Muppets thread we've all discussed how the layout of the Muppet Theater would be--and are still discussing it!

    But, I began wondering about the buildings of Sesame Street.

    We know where, in 123, Ernie and Bert live in the basement and Susan and Gordon's apartment is above their's--we've seen inside Gordon and Susan's apartment, inside Ernie and Bert's apartment...we know which side of the building they all live.

    Then, on the opposite side of the building is where Big Bird's nest is, with that little window above his nest and--from that window--Gordon and Susan appears.

    Question: is Gordon and Susan's apartment just really shaped weird (they appear there having cooked or waking up in the morning like it's a bedroom), or is it a maintenance hallway there and they just walk down there with a pot/pan in hand or just walk down there to speak to Big Bird after just waking up and stretching at the window?

    Does Maria live above Gordon and Susan, or across from them, or upstairs on the same side of the building as Oscar's trashcan and Big Bird's nest?

    And what's downstairs opposite Ernie and Bert? Laundry? Basement? What?

    How does Bob get upstairs to his apartment above Mr. Hooper's store? That door between the store and the Mail-It Shop? What's upstairs over the mail-it shop?

    What do you think?
  2. muppetperson

    muppetperson Well-Known Member

    I can only answer one question, Maria lives on the second floor of 123 above Susan and Gordon.I havent watch Sesame Street for ages, but I take it that the Fix-it shop is now the post-it shop? Hasnt Sesame Street stopped production as it was, and gone into a human less(or very limited) cast with spin off series like "Elmo's World" and "Play Sesame" (or something)?
  3. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Fix-it Shop is now the Mail-It Shop, and they have cut back on the human cast a lot. I don't recall seeing much Bob, Maria, Gordon, Susan, Linda, Gina, or very many others lately.
  4. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Few answers...
    Yes, the human cast has been cut back... And yet, they still manage to get some new bit-part guest actors for one-time appearances, adding to the human cast at the same time.
    The Fix-It-Shop was changed to the onstreet post office, the Mail-It-Shop... But it's been made known that it'll change back to the good old Fix-It-Shop for Season 37 premiereing on 8/14/2006.
    Not sure if it's opposite Bert and Ernie's apartment in the basement, but I remember an old episode from early 80's where Susan went downstairs to the basement area of 1-2-3 Sesame Street and it was indeed a laundry area.
    Hope this helps somewhat.
  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Another answer to Fozzie's question...

    Yes, Bob does get to his apartment by the door between the Mail-It-Shop and Hooper's.

    Here's some more info about eh SS buildings I'd like to share...

    The "carriage house" in the arbor is now obviously Gina's vet office. The room above it is a storage room. The apartments between the carriage house and 123 house Telly on the bottom floor and Zoe on the top floor. (I think Gina lives on that floor as well) I happen to think that those apartments are extended from 123.

    The little red apartment next to Hooper's is obviously where Elmo lives (in the second apartment on the top floor.
  6. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    So... Which one of those is 4-5-6 Sesame Street?
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Apparently, the entire building consisting of Hooper's Store, Bob's apartment, and the Mail-It-Shop is 456 Sesame Street. (After all, Big Bird and Oscar's addresses are also 123 Sesame Street.)

    However, when they had around the corner, Gina's daycare center was 456.
  8. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Oh... You mean the SS Day Care Center, first tended to by Lillian, then Angela, and finally Gina. If I remember correctly, there was another similar thread here, where someone said that in the SS Treasury books a bio stated Prairie Dawn living in 4-5-6 Sesame Street as well.
  9. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    I have always wondered how Gordan and Susan can live on one side of the building and then when ever Big Bird needs one if them, the open the window inside his nest on the which is on the other of the stoop from where the exterior of their apartment is shown.
  10. mikebennidict

    mikebennidict New Member

    I don't think there's a real explanation for it other than that's just the way it is.
  11. Pug Lover

    Pug Lover New Member

    What about the building in between,where there is a garage and an outdoor stairway with a small door at the top?Could that be connected to 123?My guess would be that it's the fire escape area.

    I've often wondered what the tire swing hangs from.I realise that in real life,it would be hung from the studio ceiling.But on camera it looks as if it's hung from the sky.
  12. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I explained in a previous post it's a storage room. In the video "Elmo's Magic Kitchen", Elmo, Telly, and a few kids are exploring around inside look at old stuff, kinda like how in just about every kiddie show they do a treasure hunt in the attic looking at old stuff that fascinates them.

    As for a 123 fire escape, that's on the side of the building. If you've noticed whenever Maria or Luis are looking out their bedroom window that's a metal staircase.

    Actually, it's (or supposed to be) hung from the fire escape of 123.
  13. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Oh... You mean the carriage house. That's been converted into Gina's vet office now. But yeah... Often wondered just what that door at the top of the two staircases next to the carriage house led to.
    Not sure... Where exactly did the tire swing on camera? I know it was kind of above a wooden box, more towards the outside seating area of Hooper's Store. If so, that may lead to some good guesses as to what it may have probably hung from.
  14. OverUnderAround

    OverUnderAround New Member

    They should make an episode of Gordon and Susan moving.. to the apartment on the right. That would correct the show's error of when they look out the side window to help Big Bird.

    Over the years we've seen the roof of 123 a few times as well.
  15. maniacal muppet

    maniacal muppet Active Member

    The Book Sesame Street: Unpaved has a diagram of where each house is and who lives there.
  16. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Really? If you could... Could you please post it in descript form?
  17. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well, here's a little something I'd like to add to the subject of how the apartments don't make sense...

    Ernie and Bert's apartment windows are right behind the dumpster wall of 123. Yet inside their apartment, their windows reveal clear blue skies. (In fact, they occasionally show other things like trees). And if they have the basement apartment, if there wasn't that wall in front of their windows, the scenery outside their windows should be like the street and the bottoms of the buildings across the street, shouldn't it?
  18. jeffkjoe

    jeffkjoe New Member

    123 Sesame Street:

    Ernie and Bert - basement
    Gordon and Susan - ground floor
    Maria and Luis - top floor

    Red building where carriage house is:


    Above Hooper's store:


    Down the street:

  19. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Not necessarily... Regarding the tree, remember that one tree can be moved to whatever spot on the street the shot demands. Also, if this is like a dug-in trench basement level window, it most likely wouldn't give you a view of the bottoms of the buildings across the street, rather whatever's in the line of view or diagonally angled above that line of view.
    And remember there's the other window to their apartment with the windowbox that houses the Twiddlebugs.
    One more thing... Some people have mentioned that in the first season or so, a couple of trashcan lids were visible in that space between their front window and the banister on the outside that separates/marks that apartment belonging to Bert and Ernie.
  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    It's true, I've seen that. Back then their apartment had a slightly different layout.

    Oh, and I was told that during the second season, their windows actually revealed rooftops and TV antanias.

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