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The Chipmunks

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Yorick, Feb 15, 2011.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'd appreciate it more if I really was into Magic Girl type shows, but I have to admit, it's not cloying in the least. A certain level of those shows have something cloying about them be it an overly cute character, or some cases the whole setting and style. I like that Madoka Magica used that cloyingess to make the dark twists and turns of the series even more of a contrasting shock. But Miraculous seems a bit more grown up and down to Earth than most. Most of these kinds of shows tend to skew a little younger, but this one seems to know its fanbase of slightly older girls if not outright tweens and teens. And I like that it has a healthy compliment of giving it a certain Western Super Hero sort of flair. It's the best of both worlds, and it's a show I find high quality and even enjoyable. It's not something I would regularly watch, but nothing I would seek to avoid.

    I'd say what really strikes this show is that it actually has a competent dub. Not too "American Englishy," the acting's good with some great talent, overall a great job. It would be silly to do that obnoxious Dub Town Change thing, actually. I can get behind the everyone speaks English in France with no accent bit, and I also like that (at least in the episodes I've seen) they didn't blank out, replace, or in anyway alter the French language on posters and signs. Especially since they didn't pull that pathetic thing where they have that jumbled nothing language like certain other French animated cartoon exports.
     
  2. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Funny you mention that, because ALVINNN! itself (A French co-production) utilizes the very same gibberish text in many episodes. :p
     
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I'm assuming they do that intentionally so that the series can easily be translated/dubbed into any language, without the text looking like it belongs to another language people in those countries aren't familiar with. Have you seen foreign exports of American and other English-language programs and movies? Depending on the country, they either include an on-screen translation underneath the original text, or a V/O translator reading the text aloud (as is common in a lot of Latin countries). This way, they don't have to worry about any of that.
     
  4. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I have to ask my fellow Muppet Freaks: when Jeanette was trying to make her student film and they kept having to do countless takes because Dave kept screwing up the simple act of tossing his keys on the hall table . . . was anyone else reminded of the infamous drum rolling out the door bloopers from Emmet Otter?
     
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  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Knowing that the Chipmunks were named after record producers Ross Sr. knew, I always wondered if the Chipettes were named after anybody in particular, and according to Munkpedia, Brittany apparently was: they had a studio singer named Brittany, and considering that Janice liked the name, and this was back in the day before Britney Spears, Brittany Murphy, and all these other Brittany's we know of now, that's how Brittany got her name.
     
  6. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    So all that ALVINNN merchandise we were possibly going to be getting later this summer isn't going to happen after all; that information that was reported of the company that was supposedly going to be making said merchandise turned out to be misinformation, so I guess that's that. I'm not the crazy collector type that I was as a kid, however, I certainly wouldn't mind snatching up toys for this show if they look decent enough . . . it's hard to find good-looking Chipmunk merchandise - one of the best and one of the most hardest to come by merchandise out there is a set of Spanish-made figurines that came out in the early 90s that actually look like very accurate representations of the characters. So yeah, if any figures or plushes actually looked like the ALVINNN characters came out, I'd probably get 'em. I started to collect Chipmunk merchandise years ago - aside from a few DVDs I have, I tried to get things on eBay, but the only thing I actually managed to get was a Happy Meal item of Brittany in her little 1950s outfit, as I used in this video:

    Then eBay went and made payment Paypal only, so that was that. So much for trying to start a collection, lol. But, like I said, I'm just not a crazy collector type anymore, and I'm kind of glad about that anyway.
     
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I don't see why there shouldn't be Chipmunks merchandise patterned after the new show. Isn't it a hit? Wouldn't it only make sense to cash in off this show with some level of merchandising? Might even become more popular as a result.
     
  8. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    To be fair, there are DVDs of the new show, but, Region 1 DVDs are pretty much those standard compilation sets; other regions have the first season split into two volumes.
     
  9. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Time to employee the new meme I tried to start, because oy vey. . . .

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    So, it's happened again: somebody getting all butthurt over what the Chipettes wear. This time, it was the episode where Alvin tries to film his own reality pilot, and he brings in the girls to help: apparently someone out there had their mind in the gutter enough to whine about how inappropriate it was for little girls to be dancing on the dinner table while "dressed like little strippers."
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    Yeah, so once again, the Chipettes were created simply to promote impure thoughts apparently . . . like the butthurt guy says, somebody could have just drove up alongside and snatched them off the street dressed like that. Oh yeah, and Brittany was just oh-so provocative dancing on the table, just look at that mangy little harlot:
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    Really, the only real crime here? Making Jeanette look anorexic. :p
     
  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Jeez. Did this guy leave the Amish farm for that one week a year? This is no more or less provocative than stuff they wore in certain episodes of the 80's show. Well...the 90's episodes maybe. The point of this was it was completely out of character and goaded by Alvin, right? I hate how kid's cartoons are under more scrutiny than the reality TV they're parodying. Besides, kids don't know or care what is and isn't provocative. I'm sure the target demographic of young boys hate the Chipettes because they still think girls are gross. And I'm sure the girls love the Chipettes for the opposite reason.
     
  11. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised they subverted the traditional 555 fictional phone number, and gave Brittany an actual phone number. Out of curiosity, and I looked up the number on Google, and the very first result I got was for the sales department for Apple computers.
     
  12. Colbynfriends

    Colbynfriends Well-Known Member

  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I'll be honest, even though I've always respected and admired Ross and Janice for being very careful and protective of the franchise and all of their intellectual properties - especially after learning their lesson from selling out to Universal in the 90s (still wish JHC would have taken a hint from that, even though Disney did eventually handle the Muppets better than Universal ever did with the Chipmunks), I've also always been under the impression that they're not exactly the easiest people to work with. Even though the storyboard artist has now retracted her statement, the fact that she not only came forward with her claims, and it prompted other former Bagdasarian employees to crawl out of the woodwork to do the same, seems to shed a little new light on that.
     
  14. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Her retracting her statement only makes it look more suspicious. Bagdasarian probably bribed her or threatened to sue.
     
  15. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    If that's the case, I would probably suspect the latter, because they seem very quick to sue people for various different reasons.
     
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member


    This news is pretty disappointing. They do seem like they're a bit defensive about their properties, and I can agree with that on that level. But harassing storyboardists and being that nasty about it? That really doesn't sit well with me. I understand being a little frustrated by the animation process, but it's very disappointing to see this very dark side of the creators. They certainly could have had more tact and patience with this, and maybe worked with the storyboard artists instead of such mean spirited techniques. Then again, David Cross did say that Janice was like Hitler... and he has some stories you can find on youtube about other bad experiences he had with those in the entertainment business (an especially nasty one about Jim Belushi).
     
  17. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    That turned out to be misinformation; there was another female producer on Chipwrecked who gave him a really hard time when they were filming. He actually said that both Janice and Ross were really kind, caring, and great people to work with. The other unidentified female producer, not so much.
     
  18. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    This new week's worth of episodes feel like the series is currently in a hiccup, because it's like we're going back and forth between good episodes and meh episodes. "Brittany the Body Snatcher" was really funny (and I know for sure it sent the Alvittany shippers flying high), but the "Agent Smith" episode wasn't really executed that well, and yesterday's new episode was another standard Alvin trying to impress Girl Of The Week episode that fell flat. I mean at least when Alvin gets him and his brothers in trouble, the situation always call for them to bring their A game (no pun intended) to figure how they're going to get out of it; Alvin trying to impress a girl he currently has the hots for gets a little stale and tired.

    EDIT: Okay, so today's chain-of-deals episode was a good one, so this has been a roller coaster week of new episodes.
     
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  19. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    The new episodes have been really, really fluid this week, I honestly can't tell if it's because they were animated at a higher framerate, or if it's the result of Nick speeding up the episodes again . . . I somehow suspect the latter, because even the main titles are suddenly much more fluid than they used to be.

    That being said, I think "Alvin's Wild Weekend" was perhaps the best episode fo the season so far.
     
  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    There's something off about how the framerate looks to me. Like they removed the Coconut Effect of making the show grainy to look more like a professional film. Something they've done with all CGI movies, actually. Like when I saw Beetlejuice on an HD TV at someone's house and the HD filter took the film grain away and it looked like a cheaply taped daytime soap opera. I don't think I like the look of that.

    But I agree, I loved Alvin's Wild Weekend. It had the right amount of cartoony to grounded humor, and I genuinely felt something when Dave angrily crapped all over Alvin's father son one on one bonding experience, causing Alvin to run up to his room, extremely hurt. We got some great Dave being driven crazy in this episode, too. A solid Alvin and the Chipmunks cartoon all the way around. Loved Simon and Theodore being absolutely disgusted by the fact Mrs. Miller was watching them.

    I also liked the bike theft episode for expanding on the even worse version of Barney Fife they have as a police officer, giving him something more than just being a gag character, but not by too much.
     

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