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The Great Comic Book Thread!!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Cantus Rock, Sep 8, 2002.

  1. Cantus Rock New Member

    Yes Grail, this one's for you! :)

    ...and for any other comic book nerd for that matter. I'm an extreme lightweight in that field, and I really want to try to stay that way. But for now, here are my favorite comic books. Lets limit it to your top 10, okay you freakin' nerds!!! hehe, here be mine:

    Ka-Zar
    Astonishing Tales (with Ka-Zar and Dr. Doom)
    The Incredible Hulk
    Any Ka-Zar crossovers (ie. with The Hulk, Spiderman, etc.)
    Star Wars (70's version, not the new stuff really)
    Ewoks
    Droids
    Congo (please don't hurt me for that...)
    Spiderman
    Batman

    Okay, let the titles begin to fly!

    -Matt
  2. Um, well, I don't go after new comics except for one. I love to look for old issues of FR and other '80s cartoons (like "Care Bears" and stuff), and the only new one I will now go after is "Thundercats". :)
  3. grail New Member

    you're really gonna make me do this? *sigh* alright...

    as many people know, i received most of my comics from my uncle when my grandfather died. incidentally, i talked to him today and he's preparing 8 more boxes for me. i currently don't know exactly what i have, though i have found a great cataloging software at www.realmsofwonder.com so i'm slowly working on it. this is a list of what i CURRENTLY read, not just what i have:

    Batgirl
    Batman
    Batman: Gotham Knights
    Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight
    Birds of Prey
    Detective Comics
    Nightwing
    Robin
    Transformers
    Transformers: Armada
    Battle of the Planets
    Captain America
    Exiles
    Green Arrow
    Green Lantern
    Hawkman
    Iron Man
    JLA
    The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
    Micronauts
    Powers
    Spider-Girl
    (Amazing) Spider-Man
    (Ultimate) Spider-Man
    Spider-Man and the Black Cat
    Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
    Thundercats
    The Ultimates
    Young Justice

    okay, i think that's it...for now...
  4. beaker Well-Known Member

    This is an interesting subject. I plan on finally having a comic book out professionally in national comic stores sometime next year. It has been a goal of mine, ever since I started doing self published comics some years back. My love affair with comic shops though started when I was five. Around the time of Jedi I started going to hobby shops. In the late 80's I was into comics like Miami Mice, TMNT, Fish Polise, Fraggle Rock, and of course Batman.

    By the early to mid 90's I was all but burnt out on the spandex hero American comic stuff...so by the late mid to late 90's I got really into indie comics. Sadly these get overlooked, but with a big distatse for DC and MArvel American stuff...I found myself getting into American indie stuff like Scud, JTMH/other Vasquez stuff, etc and heavily into Japanese manga like Shirow darwn, or Otomo stuff. In the last few years I have gotten really into what I would consider the greatest and coolest looking comics of all time: Dreamwave Productions. Each panel is like a digital cel from say Ghost in the Shell or Akira. Titles like Dark Minds, Transformers, Neon Cyber, Warlands etc do what other companies only wish they could put out, and thats beautifully layed out Japanese influenced digital manga in color.

    I'd be interested to know what comic influenced artists are on here, and what projects you have planned? Some of my projects included reviving my fanzine, the comic book of course...completing a electronic music album, and the talked about pro looking muppet zine Ive hinted about. This is all 2003 stuff though.
  5. Cantus Rock New Member

    Cor,
    I really was never a big Vasquez fan myself. I mean, I have read a good amount of JTHM, Noodle Boy, Squee, etc., but I never really could get that deep into it. Again, it has alot to do with the other people who read it that I know of, and trying not to be associated with them. (I mean...white guy in White Stripes shirt with "The WHO" nearly tattooed on his wrist just so happens to be the only white member of the hip-hop club?! And he freestlyes really really good? What the *heck* IS HE?!?!?). That is basically what I like about myself right now; I span alot of groups. In with the Mods, in with the Rockers, in with the Rappers, in with the intellectual teachers. I don't want to get in with the Vasquez fans I know though, being they aren't the most savory characters (ie. kids I was talking about it the goths post, but we won't get into that). I think some of his stuff is funny, but not enough to become a fan. And for the record, I don't like Zim. That has gone from an offbeat show to just another pop-culture display board. Like the punkie version of Spongebob (though they wear his stuff too now huh? :))

    Now the manga, that's a different story. I love manga/anime art (when done properly). If you haven't already, read the graphic novel for "Ghost in the Shell." Some images in there will blow your mind. Also, I'm a huge Cowboy Bebop fan ($180.00, I have my Perfect Sessions, hehe). Check out the mangas for that series as well. Amazing, even for black and white. And while I'm on the subject, check out the series "Excel Saga" on DVD. Easily the funniest anime I'ce ever seen. Really clever and hilarious, same director as CB (Watonabe). I suggest getting the indivisual DVDs rather than the box set, only because the box is subbed, and you really need a dubbed version to enjoy this show. I'm all for subs on my shows (wouldn't watch Bebop any other way), but for ES, you really need to be able to watch the entire screen to get every joke. Amazingly funny. :D

    -Matt
  6. beaker Well-Known Member

    cantus:

    >>>I really was never a big Vasquez fan myself. I mean, I have read a good amount of JTHM, Noodle Boy, Squee, etc., but I never really could get that deep into it.

    For somebody who has read and actually knows what JTHM, zim, Noodle Boy, and Squee are...I'd say youre a pretty big Jhonen Vasquez fan...most of the zim fans have probably never heard of his actual comic books. Ive been a fan of his for 7 years and consider his 'i fell sick' one of the best comics Ive ever seen.

    >>>Again, it has alot to do with the other people who read it that I know of, and trying not to be associated with them. <<<

    Let me guess, the so called 'goth/punks'...heh I suppose Hot Topic has the blanket marketing to sell any genre.

    >>>That is basically what I like about myself right now; I span alot of groups. In with the Mods, in with the Rockers, in with the Rappers, in with the intellectual teachers.<<<

    What is this, 1989? I remember in sixth grade using terms like rockers(80's hair metal fans), rappers, and mods(the word people used to describe what would now be 'goth') Hehe...there really is no labels anymore like that. Now its basically either preppy, g-punk(the limp bizkit red cap wearing slipknot korn fans) or real urban types.


    >>> I don't want to get in with the Vasquez fans I know though, being they aren't the most savory characters (ie. kids I was talking about it the goths post, but we won't get into that). I think some of his stuff is funny, but not enough to become a fan. And for the record, I don't like Zim. That has gone from an offbeat show to just another pop-culture display board.<<<

    It's too bad you associate whatever with zim and therefore dont like it. It's like if I associated ICP the comic with drug ingesting Juggalos;)

    Like the punkie version of Spongebob (though they wear his stuff too now huh? )<<<

    well...for the record Spongebob sucks...look at Invader Zim's animation and wacky humour...Spongebob cant come close to that animation level or level of out there humour. Zim is lightyears beyond Spongebob(which is really like Ren and Stimpy retread)

    Now the manga, that's a different story. I love manga/anime art (when done properly). If you haven't already, read the graphic novel for "Ghost in the Shell." Some images in there will blow your mind.<<<<

    Remember who youre talking to;) hehe I remember Ghost in the Shell by masamune shirow was one of my first introductions to color manga in 1995. Not only have I devoured that comic and the mindblowing anime, but Ive already looked through ghost in the shell 2: manmachine interface(out late october by dark horse comics) which looks to be the best looking manga or comic book ever...period.


    Also, I'm a huge Cowboy Bebop fan ($180.00, I have my Perfect Sessions, hehe). Check out the mangas for that series as well. Amazing, even for black and white<<<

    ehh, never been into the black and white manga stuff.
    As much as I love Neon Genesis Evangelion, gundam Wing, Tenchi, etc...I just could never get into line art speed line stuff on cheap paper. Im glad Ghost in the Shell and Akira was in color when it was rereleased as trade paper backs.

    And its odd, but whereas Dragon Ball Z is now after all these years the new Pokemon(as far as mainstream popularity)
    Cowboy Bebop is now on the verge of becoming mainstream(with merchandise in the mall and Columbia Pictures release of the movie)

    As for as anime, Im really not much into series. I dont like having to buy a bunch of dvds to watch a story...though I have enjoyed neon genesis, serial experiment lain, tenchi, and cowboy bebop.
    As far as anime film dvds you must have...my picks would be:
    akira special edition, ghost in the shell, neon genesis evangelion the end of evangelion(out very soon on dvd!), cowboy bebop the movie(bootleg dvd on ebay!), tenchi muyo in love the movie,
    perfect blue, blood, metropolis, vampire hunter d bloodlust, ninja scroll, and princess mononoke. Cant wait for Spirited Away in theatres soon as well!
  7. Gonzo Active Member

    Here are my ten, just for good times sake:

    Justice League (either Silver Age, Giffen, or Modern)
    Batman
    Birds of Prey
    Nightwing
    Titans (Wolfman/Perez)
    Aquaman (Peter David)
    Green Arrow (Kevin Smith)
    Battle of the Planets
    Anything from Alex Ross

    ...and then the occasional Green Lantern, Superman, Wonder Woman, Justice Society, Star Wars, Star Trek, etc....

    Quinnnnnnnn
  8. grail New Member

    woo! another DC fan! it's hard to find folks that will admit to reading comics without an "X" in the title (i don't count Exiles...you know, cause it's good) did you read Meltzer's first issue of Green Arrow this month? good stuff!

    oh! for the record, Outlaw Star was released in boxed set form today. you can get it on Amazon for sure, but it looks like a retail release too. all 26 episodes, with I THINK english and japanese language tracks and subtitles.
  9. Gonzo Active Member

    Hiya Grail,

    I'm a big time DC fan, again, probably because I grew up with SuperFriends and Batman and stuff...and although I'll read the occasional Marvel trade paperback or something, I'm not a big fan.

    Haven't picked up the Meltzer GA yet....but I'm loving that they've revived Hawkman and Ollie...I really hope their incarnations will "stick" this time around.

    Quinnnnnnnn
  10. beaker Well-Known Member

    >>>woo! another DC fan! it's hard to find folks that will admit to reading comics without an "X" in the title (i don't count Exiles...you know, cause it's good) did you read Meltzer's first issue of Green Arrow this month? good stuff!<<<

    I for one gave up spandex super power/team comics years ago...though I did look through the mangaverse Xmen titles when they came out.

    It surprises me all the old school 50's and 60's pulp type spandex DC comic stuff still sells at the comic store when sitting right there is mind blowingly intense digital color manga and other attention grabbing faire.
  11. Lu775 Member

    Comics

    Here's my top 10 (the top 4 are titles I buy monthly)

    1. Green Arrow (Kevin Smith)
    2. Nightwing
    3. Batman
    4. Batman Detective
    -------
    5. Peter Parker: Spiderman
    6. Amazing Spiderman
    7. JLA
    8. Birds of Prey
    9. Robin
    10. Batman Gothom Knights
  12. Lu775 Member

    hey Gonzo

    Ditto on everything you said in that post!
    I didn't start reading GA until Smith took over, but I'm loving it, and I plan to keep following it now that Meltzer's taken over....just have to get to a store to pick up #16. :)
  13. Gonzo Active Member

    Cool, Lu...Nightwing is one of my favorite characters, whether its from his Robin days or his modern version--Grayson is the best. I can't wait to see what they're going to do with him in the current JLA--which I'm hoping is a temporary roster change.

    And Beaker, there are a lot of us out there who prefer the "classic" spandex heroes of our childhood to the Manga...I'm one of those people. I'm not a big fan of Japanimation, which I think is over-stylized and over-rated. But that's me. I'm not throwing rocks, just saying it is possible for someone to know both formats and prefer one over the other. But I do like my Battle of the Planets. That was my first lunchbox!

    Quinnnnnnnnn
  14. beaker Well-Known Member

    >>>And Beaker, there are a lot of us out there who prefer the "classic" spandex heroes of our childhood to the Manga...I'm one of those people. I'm not a big fan of Japanimation, which I think is over-stylized and over-rated. But that's me. I'm not throwing rocks, just saying it is possible for someone to know both formats and prefer one over the other. But I do like my Battle of the Planets. That was my first lunchbox!<<<

    Well, what people should realize(or maybe they do) is that a good 75% of comics out there are in various ways 'manga' influenced. Even yes, the spandex classic types. See the new Wizard to see what I mean. As far as anime(I dont know why, but the words 'jap-anna may' or 'japanimation' bug me)
    it's unfortunate most people think pokemon or other kid's stuff when they think anime, or some of the old school badly animated stuff. People would change their mind if they saw beyond epicly cool stuff like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Neon Genesis, Metropolis, etc. Also, I hope people realize that starting with Tarzan in 1999 disney is now heavily anime influenced. Heck they are even now importing anime(Spirrited Away)

    I used to be into the classic spandex stuff, but there's only so much you can do with DC and Marvel stuff. The indie and American manga(for the record, Im not much into traditional Japanese black and white manga) is doing some amazing stuff now.

    It's good to see a lot of Transformers fans, one of the classic anime tv shows, and of course one of the coolest new American manga titles out. Compare Dreamwave's new Transformers, and Transformers Armada artwork to any DC or Marvel title, or even Image...and there is no comparison.
  15. Gonzo Active Member

    ....and I choose to disagree.

    Quinnnnnnnnnnn
  16. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    Shamefully, the cartoonist replies:

    I don't buy comic books, but compilations of comic strips--I'm most notorious for trying to collect anything with Peanuts in it. I'm trying to build my Garfield book collection now.

    I'm still waiting on someone to buy me the $35 book that is the collection of Charles Addams cartoons.

    So far, my Peanuts 50th Celebration book and The Art Of Charles M. Schulz are my 2 fave books in my collection, though I just got Peanuts Jubillee and have yet to read it.

    FOZ

    Oh, yeah...how can I forget. Muley the Mule Comix are my favorite. www.midsouthcartoonists.com Most will know who Muley is.
  17. grail New Member

  18. beaker Well-Known Member

    >>>does anyone read online comics? there is some really good stuff out there for those that know where to look<<<

    I do! Just two...the number one online comic strip:
    www.megatokyo.com and #2
    www.penny-arcade.com ^_^
  19. The Great Gonzo New Member

    Hmm, am I going to be in trouble for reading mostly Marvel? ;)

    My favorites at the moment are:
    Exiles
    Sojurn
    X-Men (have an almost complete collection, much prefer the Claremont years to the miserable darkness that is Grant Morrison)
    Ultimate Spider-Man
    Ultimate X-Men
    The Ultimates (yeah, that's right--I LIKE the Ultimate Marvel stuff)
    Ruse
    Rising Stars (when it comes out)
    Spider-Man (love the JMS)
    As for DC, I love Green Lantern and am really looking forward to Jim Lee & Jeph Loeb on Batman.
  20. Cantus Rock New Member

    Ain't Nothin' wrong with being a Marvel fan Gonz!!! I know I am. Ka-Zar and Dr. Doom are both Marvel, and they are my favorite. I like their original Astonishing Tales, and I just completed my Ka-Zar '97 run yesterday! The one thing I will say about South FL, we have some good comic shops. :)

    -Matt

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