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The Great Muppet Caper

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by Fozzie Bear, Jul 31, 2006.

  1. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    I figured I would open a thread to discuss GMC.

    Someone I would love LOVE to hear from is the person who wore the Miss Piggy costume when she dives into the pool! Is it the same person who drives the motorcycle?

    I think that this is my second favorite Muppet film of all time (obviously The Muppet Movie is my fave). I think the story is just so awesome and the songs are great, the photography is awesome--better than any of the other movies--and the jokes are wonderful, too.

    I remember, and probably still have somewhere, a comic book adaptation of the movie and I know I used to have a board game, a 3-D board game. That was fun! Anybody else remember this stuff?
     
  2. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I used to have the kiddie book version of Great Muppet Caper, I REALLY wish I still had that!
     
  3. superboober

    superboober Member

    This is the Muppet film I knew best when I was young. The special effects are spectacular, especially when they're all riding their bikes together in the park with no visible means of support. Among my favorite moments:

    -Animal roaring like the MGM lion in the opening shot and eating his backdrop
    -the "Hey a Movie" number, one of the very best Muppet movie songs
    -Gonzo blinding everyone with his flashbulbs
    -the beds springing into the wall, followed by the lights shattering off
    -the Dubonnet waiter imitating Lady Holliday's "IIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!" scream
    -the repeated "what color are their hands now?" gag
    -our heroes posing as the pizza delivery men to get into the Mallory Gallery ("But I HATE PEPPERONI!")
    -Piggy hurling Peter Ustinov out of the truck cab (with Oscar's great cameo)
    -Animal almost killing everyone yanking the skylight panel off

    My favorite lines not already mentioned:

    -"Kermit, what does B.S.C. stand for?
    -"What are our choices (to pay)?"
    "A, credit card, B, cash, C, sneak out in the middle of the night."
    "We'll take C."
    "Very popular choice."
    -"You are all weirdoes!"
    -You remember the pig? She'd been joined by a lizard."
    -"I thought the butler was dead?"
    "No, the pets are dead, the butler's been discharged."
    -"You left your wallet in college!"
    -"You're wearing my mustache."
    -"I tried to be nice! HIIIIIIIIIIIYAAAAAA!!!!!"
    -"How about if we jump halfway?"
     
  4. Princeton

    Princeton Guest

    Not feeling the love...

    This is by far my least favorite of the theatrically released Muppet movies for two reasons:

    1. Do you honestly expect me to believe that practically every single Muppet made by that time lived in the same hotel?
    2. I don't know what it is about him, but Lips totally rubs me the wrong way. He should not have been in the movie at all and does not deserve to even be considered an Electric Mayhem member.
     
  5. Tim

    Tim Member

    Actually, if you can find a copy of "Secrets Of The Muppets", Jim explains in detail how this scene was done. He points out how you can see the front and back wheels of the biks are linked together holding them up, along with the large tricycle down the road towing the whole thing is ridden by his Son John.

    (Sorry if I ruined it for you!)
     
  6. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    I don't know, I like Lips and think he is a great addition to the band, plus Steve had a member.
     
  7. Why do you think it's every Muppet ever made up till then? It's only a certain amount---pretty much the "gang" that helps Kermit, and the Jug Band, for the most part.



    I agree, he does not deserve to be part of the EM, and he is not part of it in my book. I loathe Lips, and nowhere do I loathe him as much as in this film. The sacreligious way he blocks Janice during her awesome diggin' '80s guitar solo in "Night Life" on top of the bus infuriates me to no end!! :mad: :mad: :mad: That is the Muppet Sin for which he must pay penance if he ever hopes to please me...

    But that aside, I do treasure "Caper", and it is indeed my favorite of The Classic Muppet Trilogy! (followed VERY closely by "Movie").

    Really!

    It is!

    :-D
     
  8. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Speaking of fave moments: In the opening sequence when it goes something like this--

    Fozzie: Wonder what this would be like without the balloon?
    Kermit: What? Plummeting?
    Gonzo: I'd like to try that--
    Kermit: I suppose you could try it once, but we need you for the movie.

    When Lady Holiday is going off about her brother, Piggy asks, "Why are you telling me this?"
    Lady Holiday: "It's plot exposition--it has to go somewhere!"
    I love when they break character like that.
     
  9. crazed gonzo fa

    crazed gonzo fa Active Member

    I remember my parents getting this for me when I was little. I loved it so much, I watched it a lot! Then one day it just dissapeared and all I could find was the case. Fortunetly they got it for me agian.
     
  10. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Actually, no one expects you to believe that. Uh uh. No siree. Which is why GMC is presented as nothing more than a movie made by the Muppets. It is not a part of the Muppet Cannon, though it may be based on certain events in their lives, but it's not a part of the cannon, therefore...we can expect plot devices such as them all living in the same hotel as much as we can expect anything else in this "movie" scripted, one assumes, by Kermit, Gonzo, Piggy and Fozzie.

    Bea:zany:{And who can fault a movie with Oscar in it? Hmm?}regard
     
  11. redBoobergurl

    redBoobergurl Well-Known Member

    I love this movie! I don't remember if I saw this one or TMTM first when I was young. I know that they were shown on like HBO and since my parents had a cool "new" VCR they taped them for me. Anyway, my favorite lines/parts of the movie would be:

    In the balloon reading the credits and Fozzie says "What does BSC stand for?" and then "Who reads this stuff anyway" and Kermit's like "They all have families" Then they're like, are they done yet and Kermit says, "Nope one more" and Jim Henson's name pops up. It's kind of cute.

    Gonzo yelling stop the presses in the newsroom.

    Lady Holiday's critiquing of the models, she's just so rude to them it just cracks me up!

    Gonzo hailing a taxi.

    When riding in the EM bus and Piggy says "Are these all your friends?" and Kermit's like, "Just the ones on the fenders"

    "Look daddy, it's a bear!" "No, that's a frog, bears wear hats"

    Pat your head, rub your stomach at the same time/walk and chew gum at the same time

    What color are their hands now?

    I've got some paper towels!

    "You must have left it in your other pants" "I don't have no other pants"

    Oscar (when asked what he's doing there) "A very cheap cameo" Truck driver (can't remember the actor's name right now) "Me too"

    And there's just so many more. I really actually love this movie and used to think it was how the Muppets got together when I was little until I saw the Muppet Movie. But anyway, it's a great movie, lots of fun.
     
  12. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I like the running gag of the bed going back up into the wall and that exact same lightbulb falling out, it never gets old! lol

    I also liked the part where Kermit is trying to convice the gang to stop the bad guys from stealing the fabulous baseball diamon (ha ha) and they all have an excuse why they can't go. I'm not sure if I'm getting this exactly right but I believe when they're all talking at once, Janice say, "It's like this, Kermit, I have to go to work all day. Hand out alfalfa sprouts and lots of other good things!" Lol
     
  13. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    The number of Muppets who stayed at the hotel is smalled compared to all of the Muppets that were around then. Miss Piggy and Sweetums didn't stay there, and it's not like the Sesame Street cast was at the hotel.

    Other muppets who were around then (and were still frequently used on The Muppet Show around the last season) who weren't at the hotel include Link Hogthrob, Dr. Strangepork, Foo Foo (she would have probably been with Miss Piggy), Geri and the Atrics, Bobby Benson, Thog, Nigel, and Mildred (okay, so the last few may not have been entirely active, but they would have fit in). There were also no monsters at the hotel.

    One thing that I've often wondered about the opening song. Was Sweetums trying to be noticed or something? When he appears in the background he suddenly looks at the camera, and then in the next shot, as Fozzie and Gonzo get out of the balloon he appears and looks at the camera. Then, after a little bit of mayhem occurs, he starts running before falling into the sewer. Was he running, trying to become part of the movie? Was he trying to stop all of the craziness that was beginning to happen? What's the deal?

    Regarding Lips, Lips is one of my favorite characters, and one of the reasons why The Great Muppet Caper is one of my favorites. I usually get annoyed when I see something around that time period (1980-1984-ish) that features the rest of the band but not Lips. I also get mildly annoyed when I see GMC merchandise that does not feature Lips but features almost every other main character from the film (so the two planning scenes from the movie bug me slightly). Also, I didn't know there was a comic book adaption, unless the person who mentioned it got the movie mixed up with The Muppets Take Manhattan, which did get a comic book adaption.
     
  14. Muppet Matt

    Muppet Matt Active Member

    Some of the parts I like are,

    Kermit lines, "That's ok, they don't mind!"

    Fozzie lines, "That took a lot out of me!"

    Gonzo lines, TAXI!!!!!!!

    The Eletric Mayhem lines, Floyd "Yeah, it'll be a lot of fun going out and risking our lives"

    Sam lines, "At times like these, I am proud to be an American."

    Piggy lines "They don't have to play so loud!"

    Beau, What color are there hands now?

    Scooter and Rowlf, I love thier excuses.

    Just a few lines I like;)
     
  15. redBoobergurl

    redBoobergurl Well-Known Member

    Actually, I think I'm wrong. Oscar's line is "a very BRIEF cameo, not a very CHEAP cameo." Oops. :)
     
  16. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    Sorry, Fozzie. It actually goes more like this...

    Gonzo: Woo-wee!! I'd like to try this without the balloon.
    Kermit: Try what? Plummeting?
    Gonzo: Yeah!
    Kermit: I suppose you could try it once.

    Gonzo: I wonder how far you could plummet before you blacked out.
    Kermit: Well, don't try it, Gonzo. We need you for this movie.
    Gonzo: Sure it tempting.

    Sorry, it is just one of my favorite Muppet scenes ever.
     
  17. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    I like that part too. Not only was it Jim's name that popped up, but it was his name under the title of "director" for the first time.
     
  18. redBoobergurl

    redBoobergurl Well-Known Member

    That's right. I thought it said director, but I couldn't remember for sure.
     
  19. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Ha... Good to do one of these types of posts again...

    1 Princeton: "Do you expect me to believe all the Muppets made up to that point lived in that hotel?
    No Mr. Princeton... We expect you to die!
    Sorry, couldn't resist the James Bond reference there.

    2 Oh Bo... You and your Muppet cannon...
    3 Beth, the actor driving the truck was Petr Ustinov.
    4 Just a few little things I need to complete TGMC for the Muppet Listings, though I don't think I'll get 'em anytime soon.
    The name of the actor who portrayed the Airplane Baggage Handler, the guy who keeps tossing the Muppets out of the plane when in the sky.
    The names of all four models, I have the actress's names, just need the character names...
    And to match photos of the actresses with the two whose names I did hear when Lady Holiday was critiquing them: Beverly and Marie.

    Hope this helps you guys out... Enjoy the movie!
     
  20. Muppet Matt

    Muppet Matt Active Member

    Carla, Marla and Darla?
     

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