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The Kermit Collar Point Counting Club

Discussion in 'Muppet Merchandise' started by Hubert, Mar 26, 2012.

  1. Hubert Well-Known Member

    I'm sure everyone's experienced this: You're having a great day, and you're at a store. Your day gets even better when you see some Kermit merchandise, and you the first thing that comes to your mind to do is count to make sure this depiction of Kermit has the 11 collar points he is supposed to have. Then, you're day gets a lot worse, WHEN YOU SEE MUPPET MERCHANDISE DEPICTING KERMIT WITH THE WRONG NUMBER OF COLLARS! Then you get mad, and threaten to it not to buy it because of that, but end up buying it anyway. (Threats don't work too well on merchandise)

    So this is the thread to express your frustration of merchandise depicting Kermit with less or more than 11 collar points. I'll start out with these two:

    First off, we've got this Jim Shore Kermit Statue. It's a very nice piece of merchandise, but when you count the collar points (it's quite hard to do this by looking at the picture), Kermit only has 10 collar points!

    Then, we've got this Kermit head shaker from Muppet Yahtzee. It's neat to have a Kermit head shaker, but when you count the collar points, the total comes out to 12, instead of 11!

    So what are your Kermit collar point counting experiences? I'll even keep track of how many items we find of each number, and post it here occasionally.
  2. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Yup. I notice it. It happens. I didn't know about Kermit's collar points until about a decade ago. Unfortunately that was after I made this cute little Kermit model with frog knows how many points!
    There is some substandard Muppet stuff out there, but I'm glad we're at least getting more stuff. Disney's licensors are still learning the book on the characters. It is getting better. :)
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  3. Hubert Well-Known Member

    Another one I found: I have a pair of small Kermit slippers made for like 4-6 year olds to wear, with Kermit's head on top of the front of each one. I noticed that the heads only have collar points on the front, with none on the back. So when you count them, they come out to 8 collar points.

    Our current tally so far:
    12 points - 1 item
    11 points - 1 item
    8 points - 1 item
    Frog Knows How Many points - 1 fan made item
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  4. Avilos Member

    So what are the thoughts on the collar? Is it part of Kermit's body. Or just something he wears. I think the second makes more sense. Frogs don't have collars. Also it would explain why the collar is different over the years.
  5. dwmckim Well-Known Member

    Definately an article of clothing; he's taken it off on rare occasion (usually when wearing some other type of outfit) - plus let's not forget the Crystal Gayle eppy of TMS where the Prairie Dogs steal his collar!

    As for the title of this thread, i considered joining the club, but decided "what's the point?"

    (Hoping the maderators don't randomly decide this title's thread at some point since then that joke won't make sense)
  6. Avilos Member

    I have never seen the Crystal Gale episode, at least not that I remember I might of as a kid. Thanks for the info. Another reason the rest of the show needs to come to DVD!

    Yeah, wearing other outfits was also proof to me. Along with never seeing a collar on Muppet Babies.
  7. Muppetboy09 Well-Known Member

    Kermit Piggy Bank = 10 points
    Walmart Finger Puppet = 12 points
    Build-a-bear = 11 points
    Disney Store Plush = 11 points
    MR Kermit = 11 points

  8. dwmckim Well-Known Member

    Yaayyy!!! At 12 points, Walmart Finger Puppet is the winner!!!!

    Oh - wait ... wrong kind of points....
  9. panmanthe2nd Active Member

    I'm ashamed to say that I didn't know there was a right number of points. Now that I do, I'll have to go and count the points on all the Kermit things I can find in the house!
  10. panmanthe2nd Active Member

    Cravendale backpack: 10
    PoshPaws plush: 10
  11. Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    I believe Kermit has 18 points on his collar.
  12. Muppetboy09 Well-Known Member

    Nope. 11 points :)
  13. Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    Oh you're right. I think I said that becuase on a MuppetCast episode, Ryan Roe answered that he had 18. I guess he was wrong. Gotta email him.

    EDIT: I think the reason why he said it is becuase, originally when Kermit started in the early days, (right before The Muppet Show) Kermit had two layers of collars, which probably came out to 18 collar points.
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  14. Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    Another thing, that most of the time I will NOT buy is if Wocka Wocka is spelled wrong. For some reason, people can never spell Wocka or Fozzie right. Even the Jim Shore Statue is wrong, take a look.
    I can't say I won't buy it now, it's a nice piece for my collection, but it's kinda annoying seeing this. But when I see other stuff, like Muppet shirts, I take one look at it and see "Fozzy" or Waka Waka or something like that, I get annoyed and do not buy it.
  15. Hubert Well-Known Member

    And here is our current tally:
    12 points - 2 items
    10 points - 4 items
    8 points - 1 item
    Frog Knows How Many points - 1 fan-made item

    See, I've always believed that Kermit's collar is a part of him. I mean, think about it, how many people walk around with a weird collar thing around their neck that is not attached to anything else? I also figure that when he wears outfits, he just tucks the collar underneath the outfit.
  16. Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    I sent an email to Jim Shore Company about this. I eventually got ahold of Jim Shore himself and he sent me back an email thanking me for telling me of the mistake. They stopped production of the Fozzie to correct the spelling.
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  17. panmanthe2nd Active Member

    That's great!
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  18. Muppetboy09 Well-Known Member

    Wow! That is amazing Muppet Fan!!!!!!!!!:o
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  19. Hubert Well-Known Member

    I have to say, I've really been impressed with Disney lately. Every recent item I've counted checked out at 11 points. :)
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  20. Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    They ended up fixing the Fozzie spelling, but Wocka is still spelled wrong.
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