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The most DATED thing on classic Sesame Street?

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by jeffkjoe, Nov 10, 2004.

  1. jeffkjoe

    jeffkjoe Well-Known Member

    Looking back at old SESAME STREET shows, what do you think is the most DATED skit or film shown on the show?

    My top three:

    1) Bob singing "Good Morning Sunshine" back in season one in 1969
    2) The Jazzy Spies numbers
    3) Stevie Wonder sings "123, Sesame Street" back in 1973

    What's your vote?
  2. ssetta

    ssetta Well-Known Member

    I would have to say "Good Morning Starshine" since it was only used the first 2 seasons.
  3. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Well-Known Member

    It also debuted in the third episode.
  4. SesameMike

    SesameMike Well-Known Member

    Any skit that includes a rotary phone. I'm thinking of one in which Ernie was awaiting an important phone call from Bert, but Cookie Monster wheedles the telephone out of Ernie to "call his mommy". CM makes what Ernie termed the longest phone call in history. For example, CM recounted to his mother, quite literally the jump rope game (I think that's what it was) he played. He counted "1, 2...," cut to some other sketch; upon returning he continued "One thousand <something>, Four thousand <something>.." After Cookie Monster finally hung up, he "thanked" Ernie by eating the phone. Whereupon the phone rang inside his belly. Ernie held CM's mouth open while he talked to Bert: unlike CM's phone call, we could all hear Bert's tinny voice on the other end. Ernie's last words on camera were "Can you talk a little louder? We have a bad connection."

    I think Mr. Hooper's store also had a rotary pay phone.

    Any street scene before about 1972 would automatically be dated by the mailbox on the set. During the first 2 or 3 seasons, most mailboxes were painted red on the top section, blue everywhere else, with the words "U.S. MAIL" in white block lettering on the side. The Sesame Street mailbox was painted solid blue at about the same time as the real world counterparts, but with one major difference: instead of the USPS bird symbol on the side, it had a painted "banner" reading "U.S. MAIL".

    Any sketch featuring WALK and DONT WALK is now dated, since these are being phased out in favor of hand/man symbols in the US. Most other countries continue to use the red man standing/green man walking symbols instead.

    There's this one film where a camera zooms in on a single letter on a sign somewhere in New York City as an unseen kid's voice reads out the letter. Of course the action is done 26 times for each letter in the alphabet, and a sedate, repeating musical score plays in the background. Aside from M for MAIL on the old two-toned letter box, and W for WALK (on a Marbelite pedestrian signal which hasn't been seen in New York City for 20 years) there are probably other anachronisms in that film.
  5. superfan

    superfan Well-Known Member

    The clothes, baby, the clothes!


    PURE seventies...just shining through!

    And the end credits for the earlier 90's shows with the hip hop beat and those kids trying to do the running man and MC Hammer moves. Even Big Bird danced along.
  6. mikebennidict

    mikebennidict Well-Known Member

    now may i ask why would anyone here even bother talking about the most dated thing on SS who cares?
  7. jeffkjoe

    jeffkjoe Well-Known Member

    Because this is an open forum?

  8. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Well-Known Member

    Plus, it's fun. :p
  9. superfan

    superfan Well-Known Member

    This is all in good fun, my friend! Feel free to join us!
  10. Mokeystar

    Mokeystar Well-Known Member

    Fun is good. It's one of the things that makes life groovy. Three cheers for it.

    When I think of dated stuff, I don't know why, but the clip of the "Ace, the Lost Dog" comes to mind. I guess in this millenial day and age, if someone wanted to print out a basic sign like that, they probably would go to their computer and print out a few using a word processing program.

    In the lost dog clip, the kid goes to a real life printer who uses these funky word blocks and a big funky looking machine to get the desired signs. They seem to go through quite a bit just to get some simple monocolored signs printed up. I'll bet it cost that kid at least a weeks worth of allowance, man. :p
  11. ssetta

    ssetta Well-Known Member

    Well, they do still use those same credits. But what I think would be MORE outdated are the Barkley and the kids closing credits that took place before that, and that old harmonica music. In fact, when I first saw those new animated ones in 1992, I actually cried. :cry:
  12. bisforbubble

    bisforbubble Member

    Forget the clothes.....it's the hair man, the HAIR
  13. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Well-Known Member

    And all of those Muppet hippies! I mean, they sang "Yellow Submarine", "Spinning Wheel", and even "Feelin' Groovy", all in their first season! :zany:

    And don't forget orange Oscar! :grouchy:
  14. mikebennidict

    mikebennidict Well-Known Member

    ok maybe i was being a bit on edge. but what do you mean most dated? often times when people mention this they're saying it's so old it's no good. maybe i misunderstood. if. so i'm sorry. otherwise so what. it's nice to see that older clips and episodes and see what SS was like in the past.
  15. Mokeystar

    Mokeystar Well-Known Member

    It's a-ok, Mikeyman.

    I think what's being discussed here is kind of broad.
    I mean, what I understand the discussion is about is not only what we remember that's totally and obviously outdated (as in hair, clothes, psychedelic counting sequences)from old episodes, but things that kids of today wouldn't understand---things that are obsolete in this day and age, like "Don't Walk" signs vs. today's "Little man figure" that symbolizes the same thing.

    BUT---it definitely doesn't mean the stuff isn't still good. It's ALL good. I ADORE the old stuff. We were just discussing it cuz it's fun to talk about. :) And as I said earlier, "Fun is good, fun is groovy. Three cheers for it." Amen. Long live Disco Cookie.
  16. mikebennidict

    mikebennidict Well-Known Member

    another reason why i got annoyed and i'll try to make this short. going on these message boards about SS and others i've heard these thing said i one will confuse the kids and while i do understand a little kids being confused by older stuff sometimes, sometimes it's either nothing or even when it is confusing, it's not bad enough to worry about. or at least it seems that way. the whole idea of a fix it shop even though they maybe uncommon these days whether things don't break as much as they once did such as TV's or repair shops aren't as common in real life. i don't think it's really that big of a deal. i couldn't undersatnd Mr. Hooper's store. yes you by stuff there and also eat there. with SS there's probably a lot more older stuff that wouldn't be any big deal and don't think samll kids are going to say. that's so old! i thing that might be different is the older episodes themselves considering the changes to the show in the last few years. 1 mentioned Bob singing good morning starshine and Stevie Wonders appearance in 73. those 2 are no big deal. let's not also forget, sometimes songs on the show whether performed by the SS Muppet Groups, the human cast, or those that went with the animations or films, some sounded older than the time they were made. a song like Exit by Chrissy & the Alphabets probably sounded like a 70s rock song but that ssong with Betty Lou singing I Want a Monster sounded more like 50s or 60s pop song. i belong to a yahoo group about Mr. Rogers and since they only show programs going back to 1979 and a lot of it apparently has to do with outdated suff as well wich i've heard elsewhere. but even his the case of that show i think they tend to be a little sily about the outdated stuff. 1 suggests kids would be tramatized by things like phonograph records and outdated cloth to name a couple. of course today you don't see delivery people wear the type of uniform like Mr. McFeely does. there's much more i could mention but i rather not. and considering the pre 79's were shows up untill the early 90s witch was in part because production ceased between 1975-1979 witch makes me think they might of not been as worried about such stuff back then. i was much older back in the 80s and even wondered about such stuff incldung seeing Rogers with his normal black hair color and these newer shows with Rogers with gray hair. wonder how those poor kids surived the trama back in those days. i know i'm being a little sarcastic here.
  17. jeffkjoe

    jeffkjoe Well-Known Member

    I understand that you're very passionate about Sesame Street, Mike, but don't come into a thread and act like a moderator and rain on everyone's parade by asking: "who cares?"

    What, do you think that every thread has to meet your satisfaction? Gee whiz....

    Now, back to your regularly scheduled thread. :grouchy:
  18. mikebennidict

    mikebennidict Well-Known Member

    uh i think we just settleed this already and admitted i was wrongso just drop it.
  19. fuzzygobo

    fuzzygobo Well-Known Member

    Another dated thing from Sesame Street is any clip with cars. I remember the one about traffic lights, and you see all the cars stopping at the red light, and 9 times out of 10 they were GM, Ford, or Chrysler. Apart from the occassional Volkswagen or super-sporty Italian job, the Big 3 were pretty much all we had. Cars from Japan or Korea were unheard-of. Now... well, let's move on.

    I also love the clip of the Bus Driver, cruising down all the Seattle streets (Hey Mokeystar!) and even seeing some old cars from the 50's with the big fins and the 8-cylinder engines. Sigh... :sleep:
  20. SesameMike

    SesameMike Well-Known Member

    Bus driver film?

    Was this the one with the little girl and boy and the wagon?

    A little boy is pulling a red wagon, which is his "bus", complete with a farebox made from an cardboard milk carton. He offers a lift to a little girl, with a fare of 25 cents. The girl scoffs at his "bus", explaining that her daddy is a real bus driver, and has to get up very early in the morning.

    The scene shifts to a man in driver's uniform walking at the bus depot in the a.m. It is still dark out. "I'll bet he hates to get up THAT early." says the boy, but the girl says it's OK. He unlocks a bus, gets in the drivers' seat, and tests the door, lights, etc. He then drives the bus out on a route and starts collecting fares in daylight. A lively piano piece played in the background.

    Fade back to the boy and the wagon. The girl finally puts a quarter in the milk carton (which makes a sound like a real farebox), then boards the wagon (to the sound of doors and an airbrake "psssh" sound), as the boy pulls the wagon away to the sound of a real diesel bus.

    Was this in Seattle? I had always assumed it was New York State by the infrastructural features and the fact that most of the transportation-oriented films they showed were recorded locally.

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