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The Muppet Movement: 50 States 50 calls to Disney

Discussion in 'Muppet Merchandise' started by dwayne1115, Sep 17, 2014.

  1. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    If the hold up is just for music rights than I find it strange that all of the people who owned songs from the other seasons let them, I mean maybe the company is focusing on its profitable stuff sadly, but we can still try.
  2. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    I would not want to waste money, all I would really ask would be a TMS season one cover since my copy does not have one or a VMX DVD if I was to win the competition.
  3. PigsInSpace2205

    PigsInSpace2205 Well-Known Member

    If I'm from other country (live in Mexico) how can o help?
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  4. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Well that is a very good question, and as of right this minute I do not have a good solid answer. Let me do some digging and I will have a better answer in the next few days. More then likely it will be an E-Mail address that you would be able to send requests to.

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  5. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Happy New Years Everyone!

    I know that the movement has been kind of quite for the last few months, but the reasons for that where 1. to regroup, and see what direction the movement needs to go towards next. 2. I kind of thought with the holidays people would be to busy to really focus any time and energy to the movement.

    Now that the first 50 States 50 calls event, and the holidays are out of the way it is time to buckle down, and really try and get this movement started.

    We need to set some time lines, and some goals, and we also need to try and find out the honest truth as to what the hold up really is. I'm going to tap into my very limited friends list, and try to get us some inside support. If anyone has any connections with anyone who works with Disney, or the Muppets please let me know. If we can get some people on the inside to listen to us then we just might have a chance.

    Another thing that we absolutely need is the support of fans. the one reason why Marvel, and Star Wars are doing so well, and have really become a huge part of the Disney family is because of there fans. Both Marvel and Star Wars have a huge Die-Hard fan base, and that is something that the Muppets have, but it is not as united, and well known as the other two I mentioned.
    That being said if we have any contributors to the Muppet Mindset, and you would like to do a piece on the Movement please contact me by PM so we can talk that out. I was told that the mindset was very excited about the movement, and that it would be featured in not one but two pieces, and it never happened.

    Lastly, as for the contest we started, it's still going on, and if anyone has any questions about it please let me know.

    I look forward to the year ahead, and hope that we can at least get somewhere with getting the Muppet Show season 4 & 5 on DVD.
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  6. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    So what I'm doing now sine a lot of folks are saying that it is the song rights is I'm putting together a list of all the songs used in Season Four and then trying to find who originally wrote the song. If anyone would like to help with this list please let me know.
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  7. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Well you'd have to maybe go to Wiki and see what publishing group owns the rights to each song.
  8. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    That's what I'm trying to do as well. So far I have been gotten all of the first episode John Denver, and at least one of the songs "Trees" they have used at least twice on the show before. Which Ironically that song was the UK spot for the John Denver show. Which means that it's not what I thought and that it was all the UK spots that would be an issue.
    Something I also did a little digging on is public domain Music, and fave found a website with a list of all the songs under public domain. Here is something I also learned about music that is under PD:

    "Any Song or Musical Work Published in 1922 or Earlier is in the Public Domain in the USA.
    No Sound Recordings are PD in the USA due to a tangled complexity of Federal and State Law."

    This could also be useful our searching, because I know they did like to use alot of older songs, so we will see.
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  9. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    There's also the estates of the guest stars that we need to go after as well.

    Also, the info on who wrote the songs can be found on the Muppet Wiki.
  10. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    If that is true than a lot of songs can be used, because many are from that year or before then.
  11. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I thought I would bump this thread, and see if anyone is still interested in this movement, and if they think that it's work should continue/start over.
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  12. backpackmina

    backpackmina Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a movement I can support!
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  13. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Well we are not much of a movement right at the moment, but the more support we get the better! I just need to plan out the movement's next moves, because I don't think the calling idea worked to well.
  14. backpackmina

    backpackmina Well-Known Member

    Can you fill me in on what happened before?
  15. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Sure! First off I came up with the idea for the movement when I heard that the Coke-a-cola Company was going to be re-releasing the soda called Surge. There was this huge group on Facebook called the Surge Movement, and the basics of it where that the members would call Coke and ask to bring Surge back. Finally after months and months Coke finally listened and is now selling Surge once again. So all that got me to thinking if they could do it with a soda surely we Muppet fans could do it with the Muppet Show Seasons 4 & 5.
    So then I created a Facebook and e-mail group called The Muppet Movement. https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Muppet-Movement/279976588876651
    I then created an event called 50 States 50 calls to Disney, where we tried to get one person from each of the 50 states to call Disney on the same day. When the day finally came I think I was the only one who called,and after that I got kind of discouraged. I felt like I was fighting a losing battle, and slowly walked away from the movement.
    I still feel that the idea of the movement is sound, and if we can come up with a better more sound game plan then it just might work. The only problem is I'm fresh out of ideas.
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  16. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    If I thought an online or other kind of petition would work I would start one, but dose anyone know how many of those there are? Since 2009 several online petitions have been started and have gotten no where.

    What if we had people sign a petition, or send me there signatures so that they could be added to the petition. Then I could mail said petition, and signatures to Disney under the name of the Muppet Movement. So it would be a simple letter requesting Season 4 of the Muppet show and then page after page of peoples signatures. That way the would have something in there hand that shows them that the people really do want this out on DVD. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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  17. asegal

    asegal New Member

    Hi Dwayne! I really admire your efforts in this regard. My nephew just turned 1 and I would like TMS to be released so he can experience it anew like I did in the late 70s and early 80s as a little kid. Here he is with Big Bird :wisdom:

    As I unfortunately am not working full time, I would like to be able to help with any petition. I can also call Disney at any time to ask for TMS again if you would like.

    Best, Ariel Segal (UMD Alumnus-like Jim Henson):)
  18. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Hi @asegal I want to personally thank you for your support I recognize your name from the Facebook page. I'm going to be working on writing the petition tonight, and should have it posted within a few hours so Please stay tuned to here and the Facebook page! Thanks again.
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  19. backpackmina

    backpackmina Well-Known Member

    I was thinking that maybe, in addition to the petition, we could physically send something to Disney. I remember one show was getting cancelled and a ton of its fans mailed boxes of peanuts or something (inside joke thing, I guess) and the show was brought back for a couple of seasons. The thing is that I don't know what we should send and specifically where to.
  20. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Well since Gonzo is suppose to be on the cover of season four something that would relate to him might be nice. As for where to send things I'm working on that.

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