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The Muppets and Lady Gaga in new Christmas special November 28 on ABC

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Oct 15, 2013.

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  1. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Um....gotta say I love this trailer! I'm actually AS excited for this as I am for The MMW. #justsaying #hugegagafan #thinkthishasabetterposterthanMMW #andmuchcalmertrailer #lesschoppy #morehashtags

  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member


    Gets me more excited than anything.
  3. muppetlover123

    muppetlover123 Well-Known Member

    Wow awesome
  4. beatnikchick300

    beatnikchick300 Well-Known Member

    I'm going to meet with some friends for a vegan potluck on Thanksgiving, but I'll definitely tape this!
  5. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I didn't have time to properly explain earlier, but I'll just pop back in to do so now.

    Here's a few reasons I (genuinely) prefer this trailer to the MMW trailer:
    1. It's calm, relaxing, and fun
    2. Arm-rods (they look like Puppets!)
    3. Doesn't look too scripted, too clean-cut, too glorified in colour
    4. Gaga + JGLH + Elton John are such great choices of guest stars and look so comfortable there
    5. We actually get to SEE the guest stars here and have an idea of what they might do (perform, talk with Floyd, etc). They don't just flash them at ya like the MMW trailer
    6. Muppets are out ON STAGE where they belong
    7. Great twist at the end, admitting that KERMIT is one of the biggest names in music.

    There's so much win here.

    And finally THIS is so much better than the incredibly ugly, cropped from generic pictures, thrown together, over-market friendly poster that they put out for MMW. #justsaying It actually contains images FROM the special.

  6. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    Love this! The preview makes it seem like the Muppets are going to play a large role in the special, and that they just won't be shoehorned in with a sole musical number. I'm eagerly anticipating this.
  7. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    Love it too, except for the fact that they had all the nerve to Flanderize Piggy's yet again! Jim Lewis, Kirk Thatcher and Eric Jacobson should once again be ashamed of themselves for not writing her character properly! :grouchy:

    Can we please have some productions where she DOESN'T do karate at all for a while? If she can make it through "A Muppet Family Christmas" without doing karate, getting angry or threatening anyone, they could still do it here in the post-2000's.

    The least I'm going to hope for is either that Piggy gets some sort of negative karma for her actions like she often got in the old days or for Kermit to man up and stand up to the pig like the authority figure he's supposed to be and tell her off like he wasn't as afraid to do in the old days.

    I hope I'm not alone on this one.
  8. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I really think Disney is doing a better job of putting great quality Muppet productions out finally!
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  9. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    The trailer is better than that sneek peek we got on The View (though I noticed part of that scene is in this trailer). But it still looks like a trailer for a typical Christmas concert special, though I was expecting that.

    Ever since this was announced, I figured the on-stage performances would look like they do for a regular live concert special, but then a few days ago I wondered if they'd look more like something that would be done on-stage at the Muppet theater, maybe even with a lot of scenery and music video-style stuff. But it looks like the performances will be like I expected.
  10. terrimonster

    terrimonster Well-Known Member

    I wondered how long it would be before you came in here shouting the "F" word. You know, she did the occasional karate chop during the Muppet Show. There isn't a whole lot of context here, and we have no idea how she acts in the rest of the special. It is certainly not inconsistent with her original characterization to throw a karate chop, so the mere presence of one is not evidence of Flanderization. And it certainly isn't enough to call down shame upon the Muppet writers and performers.

    Is a Miss Piggy karate chop predictable? Yes. But not as predictable as a post afterward complaining about the "Flanderization" of Miss Piggy. The word is used so frequently and so routinely, it's beginning to get Flanderized.


    I'm no Gaga fan, but I'm actually quite excited about this special. It somehow strikes me as having a TMS feel. Admittedly, I could be way off on that pre-assessment. I just get a good vibe from it. And something about the the Beaker/Animal/Chef shot just looks amazing.
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Compared to most appearances, it doesn't seem any worse than something done in early Muppet Show episodes. I agree that they go for that overly caricatured version of the Piggy/Kermit relationship (which is why I'll defend to the death how it was handled in The Muppets), but this seems to be one of the few times it could actually work.
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  12. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry for losing it again.

    You're right about not knowing the context of the whole thing. I just feel a tad jaded on that front, since they've been mishandling her and other characters much too long and I still worry that this could end up being another case of her running around yelling and hitting everyone as many of her post-2000 appearances depicted her as.

    And when Piggy did karate on TMS, there was usually a slow, gradual build-up to it. And, like the folks at ToughPigs, I'm sick and tired of the one-dimensional Piggy who goes "What did you say? HI-YA!" and runs around karate-chopping everyone, no matter how contrived the reason. (I'm especially still bitter over her major out-of-character moment in the Good Luck Charlie appearance, which further gives me every right to be concerned.)

    Again, sorry, but I just loathe and despise it when Piggy tells ALL women to not approach the frog, which is not right and comes off as being mean-spririted and more of Piggy treating her Kermie as a whipping boy instead of the love of her life.

    With all due respect to Lewis, Thatcher and Jacobson, I apologize for my outburst. I just want the best for our beloved characters as much as everyone else does. And please try to understand my concerns, okay?

    As one who does prefer to reserve judgement until seeing the thing, I'll grit my teeth now and wait until after seeing it to form an opinion. Hopefully, it was just a mere out-of-context clip and that everything will turn out alright in the end and that Piggy will actually learn her lesson a la The Muppets Take Manhattan.
  13. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    Like you, I prefer that the relationship not be caricatured, than you very much. We've seen too much of that version of the relationship for much too long and it's already gotten well beyond annoying and pathetic.

    I know what I just said in my message above, so I'll go back to gritting my teeth now.
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  14. FrackleFan2012

    FrackleFan2012 Well-Known Member

    I think I saw Mo Frackle (not the member, but the Muppet monster) during the promo! :)
    If you go to the 0:27 mark, you can see his body on top of the screen.
  15. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I thought that at first, but after watching a few times, I think that's just part of Lady Gaga's outfit.
  16. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I would not be surprised if Lady Gaga's outfit turns into a Muppet at some point during the show.
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  17. LouisTheOtter

    LouisTheOtter Well-Known Member

    I'm getting more excited about this as we get closer to the show. Lady Gaga is pulling all kinds of goofy faces in these promos - it's as if she's letting her inner Muppet come out to play.

    It's definitely not going to be a John Denver type of special but I can see this being a lot of fun and a great showcase for The Muppets as we head into the final mad dash towards March and MMW!
  18. MuppetDanny

    MuppetDanny Well-Known Member

  19. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

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  20. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Knowing Gaga's tastes, she was probably attracted to it. :p

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