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The Muppets Kitchen with Cat Cora

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by ploobis, Sep 8, 2010.

  1. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Agree on all comments! The buying of Marvel Ent was pure genius, and really fills a major gap.

    House of Mouse from the 90's was pure genius...a pretty much Roger Rabbit of the entire Disney canon, with some pretty obscure references aplenty. Timon and Pumba was genius I thought too, especially setting it in the modern world. Disney just has not done that for its flagship properties on the small screen in some time

    Finally, yeah with Kingdom hearts huge success amongst both teen and college girls and guys, Disney knew the next step had to be an edgy and "epic" mickey adventure.

    WB is already laying out plans for two modern Looney Tunes films, one starring Bugs and company and then one based around the concept of "Acme"...so I think companies are finally getting it.
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    As much as I love the Muppet comics, the Darkwing ones just kill me. I'd never think we'd see the likes of him, OR the Rescue Rangers again. I'm so glad that Boom is run by cartoon and Muppet geeks. Otherwise Disney would just completely forget about it's Disney Afternoon stuff.

    (Snickers) Warner Bros will NEVER get it. At least until they realize Looney Tunes don't make good movies and to not rest the fate of the license on movies. On the other hand, they KNOW what to do with Batman.
  3. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Step aside Angelo, we now have an even more boring new Puppet-looking Muppet design...Walter!
  4. Nick22

    Nick22 Well-Known Member

    i know. he's boring and doesn't look like a muppet. hopefully his personality will make up for it...
  5. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    Make no mistake, I am fully aware that Angelo is rather plain-looking, but this is just a web cooking/comedy show for a limited audience. Its really no big deal.
    It fits for the situation.
  6. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    The thing is you don't get anywhere in TV/Media by approaching a project with a "its just a ...." attitude. Even if it's just a small project you do your best and every other aspect of the show lives upto that. They could have done a much better job with Angelo.

    I don't really think that character would have worked with Bill Baretta either, though maybe the personality would have been played a lot funnier.
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm gonna have to agree to an extent, it's time to just stop complaining about Angelo. All I wanna know is the exact reason why they came up with the character... I think there might be a Muppetcast somewhere that might explain it. I still think they could have done just as good with a rotating line of different Muppets to talk to. Kermit, maybe, hosting them. Even if they do improve the character of Angelo and make him wackier (which they were trying to do), it seems like he's the only Muppet they focus on in certain episodes. But then of course, the format is still tricky... I think it needs more of the spirit of the wacky insert segment in the actual food preparation. All and all, I'm wondering if this is just for a more casual fan base to begin with.
  8. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    Honestly, I am sure that most people in the general public don't think that Angelo looks too bad.

    Its only the Internet crowd like us that tends to obsess over these things.

    The show would not have worked too well with the Swedish Chef. He's funny, but he can't cook real food. He is also unintelligible

    Yes, in theory he could have had a translator, but that whole "translating after he speaks" thing would get VERY tiresome and tedious after a while. They would essentially have to stop the show while someone translates.

    And no, no subtitles, having subtitles is out of the question. By having English words on screen at the same time as he is speaking, it would completely shatter the character and the whole point of his shtick.
  9. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I agree. I kind of think it's time to move past Angelo and the Kitchen. The Muppets are already on to bigger and better things and Angelo is a little web footnote like From the Balcony. There's some good, some not-so-good and the program has served its promotional purpose. The Muppets were doing some experiments and all fan feedback, positive and negative, is important to voice.

    Ultimately, I wish the newer Muppets took a cue from the more elegant Muppets Tonight puppet building. I loved the look of so many of the "newer" (even if not new) puppets on that show. Andy, Randy, Clifford, Pepe, Carl and even Spamela. It's been hit-or-miss since Puppet Heap formed and took over the Muppet duties. They've done some amazing stuff, but they also have had some not-so-hot designs too.

    You get less of a shot to make an impression in the entertainment world since the experimental Muppet Show days (and boy was that a tough sell in the first place). The Muppet gang has been pushing a boulder up a hill for a long time since Jim passed so the fan base is important. It's not important that we like everything. In fact it's good we voice our opinions. The most important thing is that we give all these things a shot. That we show up. And it appears that even the harshest critics will.

    So I'm favor cooling it on the shilling for or dissing of Angelo. We've all had a say and that conversation's not going anywhere, plus there are so many other, cooler things to talk about!
  10. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Given how tiny the Muppet fan community is, we have a rich illustrious tradition of nit picking and OCD inspecting/ripping apart and analyzing the smallest detail(Man, Im surprised some people on here didnt give poor Ken Lilly a stroke!)

    I obviously don't have access to numbers, but let's not kid ourselves: were probably the only ones who even are keeping tabs on Muppets Kitchen, let alone watching it. We most likely won't be seeing Angelo after this, and Im guessing the series won't be lasting past the spring. As Frogboy said, it's just another footnote. The fact people can make endless pages obsessing over this character just makes us look kind of pathetic:p

    Anyways, as people been saying...sit back and enjoy. We have new Muppet skits and zaniness, what's too complain? Heck I downloaded all the youtube, muppets.com and Muppets kitchen videos and now have endless hours of new modern Muppet material to enjoy. No reason to be complaining...remember the 2000-2007 period where we didn't have much of anything?
  11. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    To be fair, the Muppets Kitchen has been advertised on CBS, and has been advertised quite a bit on the home page of Disney.com. And I've even spotted some web ads for it while browsing other Disney web pages.
    So, it is possible that others know about it.

    But yes, I understand what you are saying, and I agree with everything you said in your post. :)

    The important thing is that the Muppets are doing things again.
  12. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

  13. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I used to love when he had subtitles that were equally unintelligable, such as in Chinese. Was that in a Valentine special maybe? :hungry: Bork!
  14. ZeppoAndFriends

    ZeppoAndFriends Well-Known Member

    No, that was the Sex and Violence pilot (and I loved it, too :)).
  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I really think From the Balcony deserved better. At least they could have kept the old segments up for archival purposes... even if they released them directly to Youtube. Heck, it would be a great idea to bring that back to hype up the movie.

    We may not hear or see of this ever again (are there anymore episodes?) but I could see Angelo being used in a crowd scene to.. well... fill out a crowd.
  16. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    They were either Chinese or Japanese--the two languages share a lot of ideograms--and most of the time they were mirror-imaged. But maybe that's proper for Mock Japanese.
  17. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Do you know of anyone or anywhere any of the FTB episodes are? I cant find any. Back before they took down the archive, I had no idea of how to capture FLV or streaming videos like I do now. I made sure to grab all the muppets.com sketches, but there was a lot of FTB I really wish I had. Sadly they'll never be able to release a dvd of the episodes due to all the movie content in it.

    Oh wow, I seriously didn't know the Muppets Kitchen has been getting promoted on tv. Usually Im so used to online series not getting much fanfair or coverage. Ya really can't complain about brand fresh new sketches.

    D23 in 2009 laid out what was going to come to pass in 2010, so its been a steady year; so I'm thinking by the late winter/early spring we'll hear more of a solid gameplan of much more amazingness to come.

    Ive seen all the Muppet Kitchen/Tasty Habits; Angelo comes off with the same earnest kindness that Fozzie has; which is always a good thing. Perhaps his whole character and persona is that he's new, and just trying to fit in and find his way
  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    There's like a 2 minute clip of the Superman segment posted by Muppetwikia on youtube somewhere... that's IT. I only got to see a couple before they took them all down. I just got a computer when they started to discontinued it.
  19. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    Here's the clip if you are interested;


    Also, here is part of the media event that they did recently;
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jt3X4SrXgM (The rest of it can be found on the suggested video list)
  20. Mupp

    Mupp Well-Known Member

    ..Oh, I also just want to add that I've been watching some of the newer episodes again, and Angelo is kind of growing on me.

    A character with a simple design is not necessarily a bad thing.
    As message board folks, I think we tend to underestimate just how forgiving the general public is with things like that. They don't worry about such things as much as we do.

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