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Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Drtooth, Nov 4, 2015.

  1. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I notice they're claiming the show was lacking any joy, laughter, and heart. Uh, yeah, when you're trying to model the show after other shows that lack those three ingredients, I doubt they're going to magically materialize.
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  2. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    Okay, I'm going to shoot straight, I was a big fan of the new show, I loved every episode we got, but people didn't like it. I don't know if the retooling will bring people back, hoping it will, but do we really need sketches in this show. I feel that's a desperate attempt to make a TMS copy like MT. Bringing back Camilla seems like a good move, but I'd hate to see this turn into TMS, I love TMS, it's a great show, but that belongs in the 70's-80's nothing like that would work on this show. I feel this retooling is a desperate attempt to appeal to the complainers who watched like one muppet movie in the 90's, probably MCC, and watched Muppet Babies as a kid, and are annoyed by how adult this new show is, and why isn't Skeeter on this show, or I want the muppets to be suitable for my 2 year old child. At the same time, I don't care if they retool the show a lot, if it keeps it from getting cancelled then I'm all for it.
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  3. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    Did you like the last episode though?
  4. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    They're not trying to make it like The Muppet Show, they said that we would see SOME of the sketches,that doesn't mean that the sketches are going to take up the entire show. We're still going to have virtually the same premise as before,the majority of each episode is going to be the plot, we're just going to occasionally see a sketch or two every so often.
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  5. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    That 'Muppet reunion' season finale sounds amazing! :)
  6. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    All the changes sound promising,but i'm not sure how I feel about them having a recurring human villain.
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  7. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    What if Constantine was the recurring villain?

    I kid.

    But yeah, the human villain sounds more like it belongs in a movie. A villain for one episodes isn't a bad idea at all. Even bringing a baddie back for a later episode would be fine. But I wouldn't want the concept to grow stale. Maybe the villain will be more in line with Denise or Becky in terms of screentime.

    Still looking forward to the other adjustments!
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  8. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    A recurring villain may not even be a villain in the actual sense of a character (a la Constantine), it could simply be an antagonistic character set up to give the Muppets some kind of comic foil to create conflict - think Frank Burns from M*A*S*H.
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  9. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    I see what you mean,kind of like J.P Grosse on The Muppet Show.
  10. JimAndFrank

    JimAndFrank Well-Known Member

    Hmm. I was honestly enjoying the direction the show was originally going in, but I suppose the more seasoned fans than myself have a fair reason to want bigger improvements.

    Including characters like Camilla seems like a good idea because it will fill a few gaping holes in the mix of things. As for Piggy and Kermit, I still think it's too early for them to start to slowly slide back together again. I really think that Kermit needs to slow down and to be a bachelor for a while. If he hops at the first chance to reunite with Piggy, then what exactly has he learned from all of this?

    The inclusion of updated Muppet sketches sounds promising. The obvious ones are the Chef's cooking segment and Muppet Labs, possibly Pigs In Space too which means we'll get Link Hogthrob and Strangepork back for good. It's rather exciting actually. If they do it right, there will be just enough Muppet Show added in that it will make a heap of the casual fans happy.
  11. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    Love the idea of some new Vet's Hospital sketches, mainly because it gives the show a further excuse to use Rowlf, who barely did anything the first 10 episodes when you consider they basically made him an entire set. I am optimistic about the other tweaks and looking forward to the show's return.
  12. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    I want the retooling to have less dating plots and more muppety plots like going gonzo or single all the way.
  13. Muppy

    Muppy Well-Known Member

    I couldn't agree more! Occasional dating plots are fine (maybe 1 or 2 out of the remaining 6) but I really hope we can get more zany plots like the episodes you mentioned, or even the later Muppets Tonight episodes.
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  14. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    Yeah I feel the last episode of MT was the best episode since it was a mixture of heartwarming & comedy.
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  15. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    That's exactly who I was thinking of.
  16. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Season two of MT as a whole was an improvement over season one. It had, in my opinion, some of the Muppets' funniest moments. The one episode that immediately springs to mind is Bunsen's midlife crisis/Beaker's Star Trek Cruise. :confused::eek:

    :skeptical: - "Pretty Bunsen, not that I'm into that..."
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  17. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    Season 1 wasn't bad it was trapped in that trying to fit with other shows at the time though Seinfeld babies was probably the funniest Mt sketch.
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  18. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    No, it wasn't 'bad.' It was just trying too hard to be both like TMS and its own thing. I generally found the sitcom approach used in the backstage segments more entertaining, while the sketches tended to fall into 'hit and miss' territory.
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  19. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    I agree very much with the backstage sitcom segment while sometimes like the pig segments were the misses while the parodies were the best.
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  20. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    Not to mention the attempts at rebooting classic TMS sketches ("Pigs in Space" without Link or Strangepork, "Vet's Hospital" with Fozzie in place of Rowlf).
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