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The Nostalgia Critic Thread Lives Again!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by frogboy4, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Save for a brief cameo from that Malcolm guy . . . yay! Another new episode without the pointless skits and unnecessary additional castmembers!


    That being said, let's be honest . . . HORTON HEARS A WHO! was popular for one reason, and one reason only: JoJo the token emo teen. He's the only reason this movie was popular.
  2. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Yeah, he's honestly the only part I remember. Say what you will about The Lorax movie but at least it had some personality.
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    One thing I will say about Horton, and I've said this before, that it's further proof, IMHO, that Steve Carell is a much better voice actor than he is a live action actor, because it seems like he brings a certain range of emotion and connection to characters he voices, that his live action characters never have, his live action characters are always so bland, deadpan, wooden, emotionless, and robotic, and really makes me wonder how he continued to get so much work for the longest time there.
  4. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    On the flipside, this was Jim Carrey's first (and so far only) voice acting role, and it left much to be desired compared to his live-action roles. I agree with Drtooth in that Fox could have saved a lot of money by hiring Matt Frewer instead, but as we've seen before, big-name celebrity recognition trumps all else.

    Also, that random hand-drawn anime sequence doesn't look a thing like real anime. They really should have commissioned Toei or something if they couldn't get it right themselves.
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  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well, again, that was the real reason we ended up with Jason Lee (mis)cast as Dave and other big-name celebrities voicing the Chipmunks and Chipettes in those Fox movies.
  6. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Oh, I'm curious about something . . . why is is that halfway through the newer reviews, we dissolve to the logo, fade to black, fade back to the logo, then dissolve back to the review? It almost feels like leading in and out of a commercial break if this were a TV, but it otherwise seems . . . pointless and confusing.
  7. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Because that's where the commercial break is placed. Guess you have all your ad blockers on like I do.
  8. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Yeah, it's for the ad break.

    I don't really watch the reviews these days, but I wish he'd come up with a smoother transition; they're kinda clunky.
  9. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    You, sir, would be correct.

    Though I know there was a review or two that included an integrated commercial for a denim company, where Doug keeps boasting, "You can have my *** in jean form!" Yeah, no thanks!
  10. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    D'oh! I forgot about Carrey's 2nd VA role, which was Mr. Scrooge('s corpse) in Imagemovers' A Christmas Carol. Really goes to show how memorable that one was when I forgot it the first time. :p
  11. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    To be fair, look how times A CHRISTMAS CAROL has been done - save for MCC, and MICKEY'S CHRISTMAS CAROL, how many of them really, really stand out?
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  12. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    In a minor nitpick regarding the old Top 11 Villain Songs review, I'm not entirely sure that "Shiver My Timbers" from MTI is necessarily a villain song . . . I think perhaps "Professional Pirate" is more an actual villain song. But then again, giving Doug some benefit, he said in the review he had only discovered the song "Shiver My Timbers" and hadn't seen the rest of the movie.
  13. BlakeConor14

    BlakeConor14 Well-Known Member

    Wall-E is 10 years old this year.
    I was nearly 6 when I saw that film...
  14. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

  15. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    It's interesting that apparently people working for Channel Awesome don't get paid very well, even though Doug has bragged about how the money he made allowed him to move out of his parents' place and buy his own house. But then again, a lot of these disgruntled CA people are talking about how Doug's being postured over them to the point that's he's almost the figurehead of the company.

    It's also interesting how they're complaining about how unprofessional and incompetent he is just in basic filmmaking and producing: he's made it no secret that he's totally unprofessional with his work, especially when it comes to NC. Remember the original behind-the-scenes special? How his scripts were all just a big paragraph with stage directions in red? About how other people were educating him on lighting his set and everything? How he ignored volume levels for audio?
  17. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Okay, so here's some of my current thoughts on all this Channel Awesome crap. . . .

    So, first of all, with all of these complaints about how Doug is pretty much the mascot and the face of the company . . . I guess I saw some foreshadowing of this without realizing it, because I'm thinking now on the current CA YouTube Channel Trailer, that's basically Doug saying, "This channel is all about me, and there are other people on this channel who are not me, but we know you're really only here to see me." I think this is why I found the management confusing, because I remember wondering how it was that Doug had a boss he worked for when I thought he was the boss. But based on some of this information pouring out from former producers and contributors, it sounds like Doug (and Rob) has way too much clout and say than he should.

    And I guess I stand corrected regarding Doug and his talent (or lack thereof). I did actually used to say I found he was one of the few internet celebrities with any actual talent, and to painfully honest with you guys, a good majority of my own producing work in recent years comes from "tips" I learned from watching some of his behind-the-scenes videos, like that Making of Nostalgia Critic special he did when he was reviewing DOOMSDAY MACHINE . . . I even confess that the main reason I chose to go with Adobe Premiere for editing, and get myself a Sony AVCHD handycam to film my work with is because they were what he used (and, in fact, my handycam is a much lower model of what he used to use - I can't even find his model commercially, and even on Amazon, it usually runs $400-$600 in used condition) . . . I mean, he made it all sound like he knew what he was talking about, and I'm sure he did with the confines of filming with a handycam and editing on Adobe Premiere, but nothing else. When he "joked" about unprofessional he was, he really wasn't kidding - he really is unprofessional, in a bad way. Granted, I actually never really took the time to watch any of his non-Nostalgia Critic work, but based on what I'm seeing from other YouTubers commenting on this work, such as those anniversary movies that he did, he apparently had absolutely no sense of producing/production work, his writing was hackneyed plagerism, his directing was telling everyone to do it the way he would do it, and the movies themselves were basically all ego strokes for him. So . . . not sure what it is about him I had been mistaking for talent, but. . . .

    And there's also the issue that supposedly Doug isn't even doing any of this because he's simply an unprofessional egomaniac, but that he's doing it because he's basically Mike Michaud's puppet. As bad as this guy seems to be as a CEO (given that there's accusations against him basically being an arrogant, cheauvanistic, lazy, money-hungry slob), it kind of makes me wonder whatever happened to that Bargo guy who was supposedly the head honcho of the company back in its glory days? And speaking of cheauvanism and mysogyny, it would seem that the whole #MeToo movement can even apply to CA, because an unidentified former female producer has come forward and said an unspecified higher up at CA basically sexually groomed her, and that she didn't even realize she was being groomed until she found said unspecified higher up in possession of child predatory material, and that basically everything he did to her came from this material. I guess that's something else that's foreshadowing, considering I remember NOstalgia Critic once remarking, "Abuse to women is funny." Not to mention in one of those anniversary movies, there apparently was meant to be a full-on rape scene with Nostalgia Chick. Y'know, because rape is funny!

    And that finally brings me to my closing remark, which is something we've discuss before in other threads regarding the likes of Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, and others, and that's separating the art from the artist. Now, honestly, I wasn't really die-hard into Channel Awesome like a lot of people were, and like Shane mentioned before, I honestly really only watched Nostalgia Critic episodes where the shows or movies he reviewed were shows and movies I had seen and was familiar with . . . and, to be perfectly honest, all that's come to light recently about CA really doesn't change my enjoyment of older/classic Nostagia Critic (since much of it was back in the pre-CA TGWTG days). So, I can definitely separate the art from the artist, because while my thoughts on (classic) Nostalgia Critic remains unchanged, my thoughts and opinions of Doug don't. I can separate the Nostalgia Critic character from Doug Walker to a degree - I still enjoy the screaming, tormented internet reviewer whose been a major part of my internet life for a good many of years, but I no longer see Doug Walker as the talented internet entrepeneur I once did.
  18. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah, among all that's come forward, I learned that the only CA people who actually got any kind of actual monetary payment were those who worked for CA's corporate headquarters in Chicago; everyone else had to rely on their own monetization revenue.
  19. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    So basically, this skit sums up all of the grievances against Channel Awesome:

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  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Okay, Doug's finally weighin in on all of this:

    Or, not. . . . :p
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