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The Old Cartoon Network Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by D'Snowth, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    So Boomerang has been rerunning Dexter's Lab lately.

    They've gone through the episodes made after Genndy left.

    All I can say is, I'm baffled about the amount of hate that the new PPG series gets considering how freaking awful most of the late Dexter cartoons are.
     
  2. BertsNose

    BertsNose Member

    I don't have Boomerang. I don't know what Comcast/Xfinity's problem is and can't understand why they won't add the channel to their cable package. I have been wanting to see reruns of Dexter's Laboratory for years. I agree that the late episodes aren't the best. There's maybe only one or two episodes from that era I like. For some reason I like the episode "Sis-Tem Error" in season 4. I'm not sure why I found it hilarious the way Dee Dee was pretending to be the computer in order to keep him from finding out she accidentally shut down the power. I found parts of "Stuffed Animal House" to be very funny as well.

    I'm not a fan of the PPG reboot either but you do have a point about the later Dexter episodes being awful compared to that. "D Squared" is one such episode I don't like that much.
     
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    They say it's because it's a commercial-free channel, but that doesn't explain why they already included Noggin because it was commercial-free too.
     
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member


    Ahem....

    Not anymore.

    Insert long rant about sister channels being only available on the super large premium cable packages with hundreds of channels you'd blissfully ignore here.

    I don't get XD, but I get all three Nick channels, Playhouse Disney and Boomerang. Was also annoyed I didn't get the Hub, but since that channel changed the way it did, I could care less. I can watch Rescue Bots online.

    That end of the series was a mess. I agree it had some actually good episodes. The Wacky Races tribute especially. Even liked the one where Dexter gives himself laser eye surgery and everyone looked like a Basil Wolverton cartoon. That's ex-Ren and Stimpy's Bill Wray for you. I bet the storyboards were epic on that one.
     
  5. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    There was also a brilliant tribute to Tex Avery's "...Of Tomorrow" cartoons.
     
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Much like when PPG's creator left for another show, the episodes were a violently mixed bag. Ones that were actually good and ones that were there for their contractual obligation. Come to think of it, I take back about 50% of what I said about the last season of Dexter. Some are actually kinda fun, like the one where he goes to college and flips the heck out because everyone refuses to study, turning him into a party fiend just as everyone else was cramming. Also liked the one where DeeDee writes poetry for Dexter to read to a girl he wanted to get with, only to stupidly start his own, which were only insults to DeeDee.

    Though I must admit. I'm mix on the original, cel animated bounciness of the first episodes or the sharper, cleaner look of the new ones. Dexter appears to have gotten shorter, especially with the shape of his head. At least it was better than the post movie PPG look. I like how the girls looked, I must admit, but I hated the rest of the show's look. Especially pointy Mojo. Thankfully, the new cartoon at least gets that right. Love my round, non-threatening Mojo.

    Meanwhile, a series of old Cartoon Network bumper commercials popped up. A series called Cartoon network Responds

    Here's one that was surprising. An audience request for a list of Speed Racer episodes:



    Which has the Japanese version of the theme song. Something that was impossible to find in the early internet days.
     
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well even during the Genndy years of the show, Dexter started out having a slightly taller head than we got used to, particularly in those that were originally What A Cartoon! pilots.
     
  8. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    I tried watching several episodes of ED EDD N' EDDY recently because I hadn't watched it in a few years. But I just really couldn't get into it, mostly because almost all the characters are such unpleasant brats. Sure, I understand they don't like the Eds (Edds?) because they're scam artists, but still. It's just uncomfortable to watch. It doesn't help that the most unlikable characters seem to get the most screen time. I mean, Ed's already a bit of a jerk, does everyone else have to be? Are there even enough characters for that?
     
  9. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    In my dissection of the series (yes, I've done that, lol), I've come to the conclusion that it's just Eddy the other cul-de-sac kids really hated. On those rare occasions where just Ed and/or Double D are by themselves, you'll notice the other kids don't even seem to mind them at all - there's even been a couple of occasions where Kevin engaged in pleasant/friendly conversation with just Double D. I think it's mainly Eddy's influence, because he's the little pest of the group, and Ed and Double D mainly just go along with him because he's the leader of their group.

    That being said, I think it's really only Kevin who held contempt for them (well, again, mostly Eddy), and not really the other kids: Rolf, Jonny, and Nazz never seem bothered by the Eds for the most part, but whenever Kevin's around, suddenly the other kids act like they don't like the Eds either, I think it's because Kevin's the "cool" kid, and the others would rather hang with him to seem like "cool" kids as well, which I can actually remember kids actually doing back when I was a kid, lol.

    I mean, I give Danny Antonucci and his writers that, they really captured childhood exploits really well on this show, if even in an exaggerated, fantastic way - Danny even admitted that a lot of what happened on the show came from things that his own kids and their friends did. The Kanker Sisters were based on a pair of girls who stalked him in middle school.
     
  10. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Kevin and Sarah, actually. Even Jimmy to a lesser extent.
     
  11. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Sarah at least likes Double D, we know that much, because she had a major crush on him throughout the series. Jimmy seems to likewise mostly hold contempt for Eddy - remember that episode where they made Ed cool? "Swiggety-swag, what's in the bag?" When Jimmy realized the cool guy was Ed, he looked around and asked, "Uh, is Eddy here?"

    But yeah, Sarah's like an evil version of D.W. from Arthur, lol.
     
  12. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    On a slightly different note. Did we ever see the characters leave their neighborhood? I don't fully recall.
     
  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    The movie sent the Eds on a trek to find Eddy's brother, while the rest of the kids hunted them down.
     
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Funny thing is, I have this medium sized Dexter figure from Trendmasters standing on a shelf, and when the new episodes were on, I was highly suspect of how the toy looked, but once the older episodes cycled back, the toy looked perfect.

    I have to admit, at least I do like the streamlined look of the later episodes, unlike the PPG's post movie designs (though, oddly have no problem with the girls' redesigns themselves).

    I give the show a lot of credit for being slightly uncomfortable to watch. I mean, I grew up with Care Bears and The Get Along Gang, stuff where everyone's happy and gets along and things are always fine. If there's one thing that the show captures beautifully it's the level of alienation and clique mindedness that's the dark side of mid-late stage childhood. It seems that Double D could easily be friends with any of the rest of the group (maybe not Kevin), but seems to only hang out with the other 2 Eds because they'd be the only ones to approach him and/or the only ones he'd approach. Seems that the kids don't so much hate Edd or even to some extent Ed, but Eddy is the source of constant nuisance, so by association, the kids in the neighborhood hate them. The Eds share an us against the world brotherhood, though it's Eddy's fault that the world's against them in the first place.

    Not to mention the other characters (maybe not Naz) have some strange issues of their own. Jimmy is struggling early with his sexuality or gender role, so Sarah acts as the supportive friend to keep him from getting hurt, thus making Sarah a little defensive. She also has some sibling issues with Ed. Johnny has some strange emotional attachment to his transitional object, which seems to be barely holding back any of his weirdness, if not outright insanity. And of course Kevin the bully, who I really do like that they don't make out to be a buff but sensitive type that we're supposed to sympathize with. While he could easily pick on the other children (sometimes he does ever so slightly), he focuses on the Eds, and it seems that he's the reason the kids are kinda against them other than Eddy's schemes and trouble making.

    The Kankers are straight up rapists and stalkers, though.

    And let's not forget the episodes where they go to a completely desolate junior high school...on second though, let's forget it.
     
  15. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I notice the consensus of most fans is that Jimmy is gay for those very reasons, however, I don't necessarily believe that makes him gay. I confess when I was like three and four years old, I went through a phase where I wanted to play with girl toys, not because I felt like a girl, or that I associated myself with girliness or anything like, but certain girl toys just looked fun, like the dollhouses that came with family figurines that could talk when you moved them from room to room, or a Barbie jeep thing that had like a play carphone with it (I had one of those Little Tikes cars, so to me, the Barbie jeep seemed like a step up). Jimmy, to me, seems like he's going through a similar phase, just on a bigger scale.

    But the main reason I don't think Jimmy is gay is because it's clear he's got a crush on Sarah: not only does he call her his girlfriend, but remember when he fell into a jealous rage when Sarah developed a crush on Double D? Not only that, but there was one time when he was playing dolls with Sarah, but he actually had like a G.I. Joe expy, to which he remarked how he wanted to be like when he grew up.
     
  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Looking at some old WAC shorts on YouTube, I had actually forgotten how a number of them were actually done by Butch Hartman: HILLBILLY BLUE, both PFISH N CHIP shorts, GRAMPS, and I know he also did work on Johnny B. and Dexter. And interestingly enough, these shorts really don't resemble his style on FOP that much.
     
  17. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Butch's shorts on WAC aren't very similar to the actual show, but you can still see a few similarities with those and his original "Oh Yeah Cartoons!" FOP shorts.
     
  18. Schfifty

    Schfifty Well-Known Member

    There was a period of time while I was really into EEnE, roughly 7th grade, when I thought a majority of the kids were like bullies as well. I'm not sure if you've seen this episode, but Eddy was under pressure because Kevin revealed his middle name was Skipper, then Double D consoles him by revealing his middle name - Marian - and then most of the kids were making fun and laughing at him at the end. I just sort of felt sorry for Edd being made fun of by the others or something, and that's when I started considering some of the other Cul-de-Sac kids as bullies. Heck, I was so sensitive about some of the content during that that I would even give specific episodes of the show a content rating based on the scale at Newgrounds.com (Everyone, Teen, Mature, Adult). Don't ask me why, but I just liked making wacky lists for some reason.

    Don't get me wrong, but I probably wouldn't get into the show again if I watched an episode. I think 7th grade was really the biggest time I was interested in the show, and after watching a lot of episodes and downloading pics and reading fan fiction, my interest just kinda drifted on. I feel I'm a bit old to watch the show now, but I like to keep the memories with me; I still read funny dialogue from the episodes occasionally.

    I did find this behind-the-scenes video a couple of months ago, though. I never heard the actors' real voices before I saw it, and I'm surprised how so different Matt, Sam and Tony sound from their characters:

     
  19. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Oh, that was a bonus DVD that came with the Mis Ed-ventures video game - I still have both of those, lol.
     
  20. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Oh, harharhar, how sad! You still watch a show for little kids... :rolleyes:

    Now, if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go watch some Sesame Street on Youtube now.;)
    Truth
    Still, their are a lot of things I enjoy about the show, and like I said, I hadn't watched it in a while, so that probably had something to do with it. I didn't mean to sound like I hated the show or anything. I guess it's just one of those shows I can only take in moderation :smirk:
     


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