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The Old Cartoon Network Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by D'Snowth, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    I like EEnE but, I hate all the Kevin+Double-D stuff all over Devaintart & Fanfiction.Com. Sheesh people and their strange fantasies.
     
  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Listen, every fandom has slash and crack ships like that, EEE is no exception.
     
  3. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    Not the Muppet fandom really has has slash and crack ships like that but, yeah you're probably right about every other fandoms.
     
  4. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah. Off-topic, but it's ironic that some M*A*S*Hers out there ship Charles and Klinger, because that's something that actually predated David Ogden Stiers coming out of the closet.
     
  5. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    That reminds me. About nine years ago, Cartoon Brew had an article about a fan who made weird erotic cartoon fan art, including EEE. But the weird thing is, the person that made this art was none other than Rebecca Sugar!
    http://www.cartoonbrew.com/animators/rebecca-sugar-4363.html
     
  6. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    I am both amazed and also disgusted that Rebecca Sugar would do that. Oh Well.
     
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Since Gene Wilder has passed, my memory has been prompted: anyone remember when both Dexter and Johnny Bravo did parody episodes of Willy Wonka?

    Dexter's parody was a bit more obvious, from trying to find the Golden Disket, to all the musical numbers, and how vivid and trippy Professor Hawk's lab looked. Johnny's was a little more subtle, but it's clear Jerky Jake and his midget cowboys were meant to be expies of Willy Wonka and his Oompa-Loompas - not to mention Pops trying to discover the secret ingredient in Jerky Jake's jerky recipe was reminiscent of Slugworth trying to get his hands on an Everlasting Gobstopper.

    Both had twists though: Professor Hawk selfish awarded the grand prize of his entire factory to himself, and Jerky Jake had Johnny and Pops booted after Pops exposed the secret ingredient and revealed the jerky was actually health food.
     
  8. Schfifty

    Schfifty Well-Known Member

    Ah, yes I remember the Dexter's Laboratory parody of Willy Wonka. Oddly, I actually hadn't seen the movie or read the book before I first saw the episode in 2nd grade, so it just looked like a cool storyline to me. I think what sticks out the most to me is that one song before the factory blows up - "Your Brain is a Creative Computer".

    Ditto for the Johnny Bravo one. I hadn't realized it was a parody of Willy Wonka back then, but hey, when you surpass the demo age, you start to realize the hidden gems and references in those shows. :)

    You mentioned something which I find interesting: both episodes feature cowboys. The JB episode has cowboys as the oompa-loompas, and the DL episode had Dee Dee round up the others in a hoedown in one scene.
     
  9. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    I don't remember the DL & JB Willy Wonka parodies but, I do remember seeing on adult swim, the Futurama parody of Willy Wonka.
     
  10. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I always remember: "Shoo-ba-lee-doo-ba-lee-doo! That's Professor Hawk!"
     
  11. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    On the subject of Dexter, while things can be said about the post Genndy episodes, I have a special place in my heart for the episode with Fred and Mar-10. It's almost as if it were a backdoor pilot to the show they should have had instead of the last season of Dexter's Lab. I totally would have watched more adventures with the three robots (including the third one that didn't have any lines or a name...the floating one).

    But at least we got this great scene out of it...

     
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  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Come to think of it, Dexter frequently did musical numbers:


    Not to mention there was that one episode that was done entirely as an opera.
     
  14. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Okay, so, I wasn't exactly sure which thread to put this in because it's from the Nickelodeon podcast, but it's an interview with Lauren Faust who has never even worked on any Nick shows. :



    I think the one with Paul Williams is the episode that I remember the most out of all of them from when I was little. I still get that song stuck in my head every so often.
     
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  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Here's another Japanese Cartoon Network promo



    I really love these Japanese animated bits with American cartoons animated to not look Japanese, but still having their distinct stamp on it.

    Plus, unlike the 1980's Japanese Flintstones commercials, these are well animated.
     
  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Drtooth has often mentioned how he thinks C&C was a stupid show, and I've often disagreed, because I feel that as an adult and having a better understanding of the humor that it was actually a pretty smart and well-written show . . . for the most part. Thinking back on it, there were a number of episodes, particularly from the last season that were pretty bizarre; I've been thinking about one in particular today and realized there's some parallels between it and SST:

    Cow finds a monster in her closet and they quickly become the best of friends - much like how Big Bird discovered Snuffy and they quickly became the best of the friends.

    Cow tries telling the others about Mr. Monster, but they don't believe her because they can't see him and he must therefore be a figment of her imagination - very much like how Big Bird tried to convince the adults Snuffy was real, but they always missed him and dismissed him as being his imaginary friend.

    Mom and Dad eventually discover Mr. Monster for themselves and realize that he is real - much like how the adults eventually saw Snuffy and realized that he was real . . .

    But then Mom and Dad, out of their own irrational fears, tell Cow she can't be friends with Mr. Monster anymore, and force her to banish him back to the closet, which breaks both of their hearts - this is kind of similar to how Big Bird is finally convinced by the adults that Snuffy really is imaginary and they can't be friends anymore, causing them to cry on each other.

    The big twist is that Chicken then discovers Mr. Monster in another closet (which is odd, because earlier, even Chicken couldn't see him) and they end up becoming friends instead since Cow decides that Mom and Dad were right all along that he never existed (which makes him sad).

    But like I said, what was really weird is that Mr. Monster was somehow like a Gazoo in that apparently only Cow could see him: when she gets ice cream for both of them, the ice cream man can't see him; when they play jump rope and Chicken, Flem, and Earl watch, they can't see him; but then Mom and Dad saw him, yet Chicken still couldn't . . . but then, Chicken finds him in another closet. I think the writers couldn't make up their minds as to whether Mr. Monster could be seen or not.
     
  17. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    One of the sad things about being an adult is you find yourself questioning things you didn't even give any thought to as a kid.

    Today, I was thinking about the WAC short HARD LUCK DUCK (mainly because I was thinking about the characters Brad Garrett voiced in the 90s, and Harley Gator was one of them) . . . Harley's head is completely hollowed-out, and Hard Luck Duck lives up in Harley's skull, where it's completely furnished, and even has electricity.

    How? Why?
     
  18. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I found some of the Cartoon Gang bumpers, where kids discuss cartoons. And I've seen that there's at least two where they discuss Nickelodeon cartoons.

    I remember seeing the one about Rugrats on TV, felt it was odd even back then that they'd discuss it on Cartoon Network.


    And then I found one where they discuss Ren and Stimpy.



    It's so interesting that Cartoon Network let them talk about cartoons on other channels (though to be fair, the Ren and Stimpy one begins with one of the girls saying that she thinks the show should be taken off the air).

    I wonder if they wanted to go for some realism. A real group of kids discussing cartoons would probably talk about any cartoon series or character, regardless of what channel it was on. Maybe they wanted to feel like these were natural discussions as opposed to limiting them to what the channel can show.
     
  19. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Aren't they the ones who were theorizing how Dexter somehow came to affect a pseudo-Russian accent?
     
  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Going through one of my old CN (specifically, C&C) tapes yesterday, I'm reminded of the one thing I missed about the original CN.com website: the DOC (Department of Cartoon) section. Remember, you could browse through model sheets, storyboard pages, and production notes of their different shows . . . I'm pretty sure I still have some of the model sheets I printed off the computer lying around somewhere, but I had forgotten about them till I saw an old promo for CN.com.

    And I had almost forgotten about what a big deal they made about adding ANIMANIACS in the fall of 1998, so much so that the Warner Brothers (and the Warner Sister, Dot) were infiltrating the promos for other shows, like wanting to use the bathroom while Johnny Bravo was washing his hair, or wanting George Jetson to spot them a few bucks. On that token, why didn't I pick up the DVDs of FREAKAZOID!? I really should have done that, lol. I think of the three Spielberg cartoons, that one was my favorite, with ANIMANIACS in close second. I know both Nick and CN would air TINY TOON ADVENTURES, but I seem to recall Nick giving them more love than CN did.
     


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