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The one thing on the internet I can no longer stand...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Drtooth, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    And I assure you, this is very obnoxious. Even worse than idiotic racist comments on Youtube videos.

    Idiots that type imaginary synopses of imaginary episodes of TV shows to either troll or because they're under the delusion that if they write the title of some fan fictiony garbage, that episode of something will have happened. And inevitably, these will be episodes that air on a completely different network that never would have carried the show ever years after cancellation.

    What the heck is this? Some sort of lazy attempt at fan fiction? Too lazy to even write a full bad story where everyone's out of character and coming off as a preschool show that the original concept was never meant to be?
  2. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    I'm curious, where have you seen something like this? It sounds like fan-fiction for Twitter-length posts, lol.
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  3. Slackbot

    Slackbot Well-Known Member

    For a while someone was posting titles and airdates of fake Fraggle Rock TAS episodes on Wikipedia. No synopses. Some of the ep titles were plausible, and some were pretty funny.
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  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Ugh... I forgot to finish. Sorry about that.

    I see these primarily on Wikipedia pages. Lost Media Wiki for example keeps getting bad cases of this over and over, no matter what the mods do about it.

    Yeah, Slackbot gave a pretty good description of what I'm talking about, but they're usually much poorer than that.
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  5. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    They're usually on wikipedia, and half the time I believe them (at least when I was younger), and they're the most annoying things on the web. Honestly, if you're going to make dumb fake episode titles of say a TV show that's been canceled for a decade, and some not even give a synopsis:crazy:! TMS, along with all those other variety shows plus game shows and reality shows showed us that episode titles hardly matter. So, why do some idiots still go around the web making dumb episode titles without bothering to write anything about the episode. Here's the WORSE CASE SCENARIO for imaginary episodes. http://sitting-ducks.wikia.com/wiki/Rumor_for_Sitting_Ducks_new_episodes. Some idiot goes and makes a wikia for a show that's been cancelled for 11 years (though a pretty good one at that) which is fine, BUT when they're dumb enough to ask the creator to make stupid episodes and beyond stupid changes to the characters and the shows, then I think the world has reached insanity.
  6. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    I've never ran into that on Wikipedia before, but it seems annoying. Guess I'm not looking at the right pages, lol.
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  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I give that guy credit for at least saying they're fake. Seriously. Lazily writing episode titles for a long cancelled show as some sort of wish fulfillment is even lower than the "Pooh's Adventures of" videos. Even those take the effort of downloading and editing. And they're always somehow made into something preschooly. Ever notice that? They're going to take a show for older kids and make it for preschoolers and air it on PBS. Yeah. Cuz that's happened and that's a thing.

    Well, not official Wikipedia, but the little fanmade ones on specific shows or concepts. Muppet Master posted a stellar example of stupidity. Lost Media wiki gets one every so often so much so they refused to accept articles for a while (effectively turning me off from signing up and doing some articles based on Jay Ward pilots that never sold or were finished). They got one for (get this) a Super Mario movie made by DIC in 2008 or so that was just a Dora the Explorer movie with Mario names attached. Can't even begin to correct that, but we all know Nintendo hates cartoons that aren't Pokemon, so the likelihood of a Mario cartoon is low. Then, recently (which caused me to post this) a bunch of never before seen Angry Beavers episodes, 2 years after it was cancelled popped up on PBS, using titles that were completely inconsistent and sounded like lame stock episodes from a preschool show. Almost if whoever posted it really wished Angry Beavers (a subversive and raucously maniac series, mind you) was Timothy goes to School or something.
  8. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    Poor Lost Media Wiki. That's a great concept for a website, to me the idea of lost films from the early days of cinema and rare TV shows is fascinating, but that stinks that people are abusing it like that.
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  9. dycaite

    dycaite Active Member

    I hear you dude. This kinda thing really annoys me too and it takes away from what little time I do have to work on the wiki this year (given my prior study commitments).

    I know that the lockdown wasn't a terribly popular move and I can see why that is, but, honestly, I can't see any other way to combat this kinda thing; well, at least not until the wiki is moved to its own, independent host (which will likely happen some time next year) at which point articles will require staff verification before actually being published (hopefully quashing the issue once and for all).

    I certainly hope that the lockdown hasn't completely turned you off writing and contributing new articles, as that was not our intention at all; we absolutely appreciate all the articles that are well-written, but, for that short period of time, we decided it best to simply block any and all articles, until the dud ones were fixed up or removed.

    LMW Founder
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  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I may just be lurking around on that site (I was the one who found the Weird Al preview with the Wolfman Jack cartoon), but I agree that was a wise move. Bad apples ruin the bunch, and cliche ridden Creepypastas and lazy fan fiction pollute a site like that. Those had to be discouraged, by any means necessary. I'm sure I'm not alone, but I'd rather read about things that are truly lost than imaginary episodes of decidedly non-preschool shows in preschool formats. After all, the real stuff is often more interesting. That's the draw, after all.

    To be honest, two things. I'm too lazy to come up with an account and to dig through my stuff to find the book I need for reference (The Moose that Roared by the way, I highly recommend tracking that down). Plus I don't know how to reference books exactly, and there's so little on the net to go by.

    But I will someday and hope it's acceptable.
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  11. mimitchi33

    mimitchi33 Well-Known Member

  12. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    There are 467 different fake Tantrum episodes! Someone's got too much time on their hands to say the least.
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  13. mimitchi33

    mimitchi33 Well-Known Member

    No. These are actually made by a few different people.
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  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Yeah. That stuff can stay in it's own little corner of suck. But when it starts oozing out to serious information wikipedias, that's no bueno. I get the whole obsessiveness about crossing over characters that aren't interesting or clever together to the point where I actually want them to kill fair use. But to be that lazy to just throw things up on a wikipedia and not even bother writing a crappy fan fic on deviant art... and NO ONE likes them. No one does.

    And I still don't get the obsession with preschool media (coming from an adult Sesame Street fan). Especially with decidedly non-preschool characters.
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  15. mimitchi33

    mimitchi33 Well-Known Member

    Most of the people who do this claim to have autism. Children with autism tend to like stuff a little bit too young for their age. This article pretty much sums it up. But some of the fans who do this find some pre-school shows entertaining for people of all ages. For example, the show Sofia The First is well-written for a preschool audience and doesn't talk down to viewers. In fact, Spain airs it on the normal Disney Channel right after Shake It Up and Violetta! Another show, Magic Adventures of Mumfie, created by the same person as the Thomas TV series, is intended towards pre-schoolers, but has the writing of a show aimed at elementary schoolers. Not to mention, some plots can confuse or scare children, and there are jokes that would go over kids heads. Take this piece of dialogue from Mumfie's Quest where Whale explains why he can't get any passengers and see if you get the joke.
    Whale: It's good to have company! In fact, you are my first passengers! Did you see my notice in the newspaper?
    Mumfie: No, why? What did it say?
    Whale: It said, "Come inside for a whale of a time. You'll never leave!"
    Mumfie: Is that all you said?
    Whale: Yes. I can't understand why no one replied.
    Scarecrow: I can.
    The same joke is repeated throughout the series with the phrase "Come inside", where Scarecrow keeps refusing to come with whoever asked him to and mistaking what they said for-well, you know.
    As I said earlier, a few people I know told me Wikipedia is not reliable. For example, a teacher in eighth grade told us not to use Wikipedia for our projects due to the facts not being 100% accurate. A fansite for the movie Song Of The South told people not to believe Wikipedia edits stating that the movie would soon come out on DVD.
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Obsessing over preschool programming is one thing, but obsessing that not preschool programming (Angry Beavers is very not preschool, neither is Super Mario Bros Super Show) being preschool. That's just weird, right there.

    I mean, if they're going to make up dopey stories about lost episodes of something that doesn't exist, at least make the stories believable.
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  17. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    This reminds me of a long time ago, I think a decade and a half, I saw some voice chasers website listing Muppet productions, and it actually listed a number of fake productions, like "The Muppets Celebrate Richard Hunt" and, I think, a live-action Muppet Babies series (it listed one episode as "Beanbo", which was a skit on The Jim Henson Hour. At the time I saw that henson.com had that clip online but wasnt sure what it was from and thought maybe it was true). Can't remember what other false Muppet productions were listed there.
  18. ConsummateVs

    ConsummateVs Well-Known Member

    Ah, yes. The "Tantrum" stories. The ones that are similar to the "Gets Grounded" Go!Animate videos on YouTube. This one in particular is a real gem: http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/Larry_Throws_a_Tantrum

    In this one, Larry the Cucumber from VeggieTales throws a whiny temper tantrum over his parents not buying him a Sesame Street VHS tape, and gets grounded to his bedroom. Later on, he throws ANOTHER tantrum over a Sonic the Hedgehog plush. He gets locked up again, but Bob the Tomato randomly shows up and tells Larry's parents to stop punishing him so much. Even after Larry threw 2 huge tantrums and got grounded twice, his parents still gave him the video and the plush like nothing happened. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

    What kind of lesson would this teach kids if it were a real episode? That you'll get what you want if you cry and beg and throw a fit? I thought VeggieTales was all about making the right decisions, doing what God tells you to, and all that.

    Not only is the lesson horrid, but everyone is SO out of character. For instance, Larry can act pretty goofy, but he would never throw such a childish temper tantrum. Normally, if told he can't get a certain toy/movie/etc. he would be like "Oh, that’s OK. Maybe I'll get it for Christmas" but in this story, he's like "WAAAAAAAHHH I WANT IT NOOOOOWWWW" like Veruca Salt.

    "You thought tantrums disgusting, ugly, and inapropriate, but they are calming, emotional, beautiful, appropriate, charming, and okay."
    REALLY? WTH are the people who write these "stories" thinking?

    This is a TERRIBLE story (if you could even call it that) and would NEVER become a real episode on TV. But then again, there are tons, and I mean TONS of Tantrum stories on Scratchpad Wiki, and I'm sure there are even worse ones than this one.

    Also, I agree with Drtooth, it's pretty pathetic when people make up fake episodes of TV shows and put them on Wikipedia, as if they're real. I remember a while ago, when the show Kick Buttowski was still airing, someone kept editing the show's "List of episodes" page and writing about a fake episode called "Kendall's Goldfish". I kinda fell for it at first, but then I realized that it was fake. I can excuse this kind of stuff being on Scratchpad Wiki, because that site is pretty much made for fake episode ideas. But when they make their way onto Wikipedia and trick people into thinking they're real, then it's just plain stupid.

    Oh BTW, here's another "classic" story just because: http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/BJ_Screams
  19. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    My 12-year-old self is guilty of doing that with Foster's Home for Imaginary friends wayyyyy back in 2005 when tvtome launched into tv.com (I was a major troll back in the day). Now the site is pretty much dead.
  20. MuppetSpot

    MuppetSpot Well-Known Member

    Do you still have the story, I kind of want to read it?

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