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Discussion in 'Fantasy Worlds' started by MrBloogarFoobly, Oct 19, 2011.
At this point, I'm really just ready for this project to die. It's never going to happen, it's going to go way of the Fraggle Rock movie.
ohh!...well let me just put on my big suprise face!!!
Mark your calendar right now!
Seriously, if this movie gets made, I'll smash my laptop. If this and the Fraggle movie get made, I'll blow up my house.
(That said, an actual Mickey Mouse Muppet would be quite interesting to see)
Honestly, the FR movie COULD have been made had the company Henson partnered with didn't all but go bankrupt. They needed a third partner to get it done. Somehow, seeing the crap that went down with Hoodwinked Too, I'm glad it didn't get made.
POTDC was never going to get made. Let's face it. It's too big and expansive a project. Even Fraggle rebuilding wouldn't quite cost the fortune it would to make all those Geflings and Skesi (Skesises?)... I mean, the Gorgs and if they want to put Marjorie in the film that could have been a problem... but either way, POTDC would have to completely build everything from the ground up.
And let's be serious... how many long delayed sequels to a movie are actually good? Especially when they get all these rewrites and delays... the longer it takes to get a movie out there, the less chance it's going to be good. Look what happened with Little Nemo in Slumberland. That was completely screwed up when you know the story.
I kept holding out hope it would happen, regardless of common sense. I really would like them to admit that it's not happening, rather than constantly putting its release date two years away.
Also Tron: Legacy... although, I'm not crazy about the first in general. Both are strong in visuals, and exceptionally weak when it comes to telling a coherent story.
I hope this is still happening. I love the world and would love to visit it again.
I understand wanting a new Indiana Jones, a New Star Wars, or a New Ghostbusters movie. I mean, disappointing or not, they're massive hit franchises that made small fortunes over the years. But a new Tron? The movie's cult and it's basically cult FOR being a flop. Even if Tron 2 bombed, it would make a lot more than the first one did. I can see complaints for the new Indiana Jones and Star Wars films... but how can a movie that no body really liked like Tron "hold up?" Does it even matter if a movie that wasn't all that popular gets a sequel that's not all that popular and the new film isn't great, even though the old one wasn't?
That's like if they made a... what's that bad 1980's off brand Gremlins wanna be franchise? Creatures? Kritters? Something like that with squishy foam puppets that are more goofy looking than scary? If they made a long awaited sequel to that and those who see it say it didn't hold up.
Dark Crystal was an amazing movie (that I haven't seen in decades... what's taking me so long?) and a sequel will no doubt have a huge burden to carry. it may not have been a hit, but it is cult for the right reasons. It's an underrated gem. Tron... Tron was someone trying to make a hip movie about them video computer games that were popular with them crazy youngsters and their tight jeans and Rubix cubes and their Mello Yello.
The first is beloved by a lot of people, though. A lot of people. And I get that. I don't love it but I've got my fascinations like everyone else. I am, unabashedly so, a diehard fan of the Fast & Furious movies. I'll see each new entry in the franchise.
Not a fan of those, but at least that's a get what you expect franchise that doesn't have such a hard time getting sequels out there. I'd say F&F is the same as a horror movie franchise (Jason, Freddy Kruger... stuff like that) where the sequels are pretty regular. But a 20+ year jump like Tron or this one... that's not really inviting any confidence.
I've said before I'm far more annoyed we didn't get a FR movie than a DC sequel. The Muppets have had 7 theatricals, Sesame Street had 2. FR is the third big Muppet Franchise and that deserves a theatrical look. I mean, look how big and wonderful and realistic Sesame Street looks in FTB! Crowded, big, loud... like a real city. And you see it on television it's like an apartment building and a store. Could you imagine how the caves of Fraggle Rock would look with a film budget?
DC sequel on hold? Im not wondering at all!As far as TRON goes: I liked it for the visuals and music. Not really a fan.IMO a DC2 could make a LOT of money now.
LOL. Surprise surprise. The inept Henson Company strikes again.
To be honest...I think everybody's waiting to see how "The Muppets" performs at the box office. Makes sense. Let Disney take the puppet gamble for today's audiences. A strong opening will have studios jumping on the muppety bandwagon by way of Fraggles and fantasy. Just please no Weinstein. They had their chance and lost the goodwill of the fans.
The problem with a Fraggle movie is, due to Weinstine still owning the script, we'd need to start with a completely new one. And that would take another 5 years, even if the Muppets was a huge smash success enough for some other company to want to make it.
Yet, with DC... it really shouldn't matter if the Muppets is a success or not, especially since the more kid friendly Muppet characters could easily make DC2 sound like a kid's movie (I'd gather that's why Dark Crystal didn't do all that well to begin with, sadly).
Even then, Henson NEEDS to get a competent business partner. Hit was only in it for the DVD money and the prospects of a Fraggle Movie, Weinstine only cared about cheap DTV Shrek like films, Sony really seemed to burn some brides after MFS, but the video license kept going for a while...
I notice a LOT of college aged nerd girls, goths, etc LOVE Labyrinth...worship it, partially for the Bowie aspect.
Not as much love for Dark Crystal. Yeah it's boring as heck, slow...but the Skeksis and the artistry, amazing!
Well I can see why Tron got made into the modern era. In this whiz bang era of gadgets, whats more gadgety then going inside a matrix?
Indiana Jones 4 was horrendous in my view...Tron Legacy is the best sci fi film Ive seen since the first two Matrix films in my view.
This is like what Duke Nukem was to the game community. Every single year some website will put up new info(MTV, AICN, etc) or tidbit, and everyone will say the exact comments and rants. Same with Fraggle Rock movie.
But people forget...in 1998 Brian Henson announced a dark crystal sequel in this big press statement. It happened when I first joined MC, and we had a lot of the same exact threads. If I had had a child when we first were talking about JHC's DC sequel plans, Id have a kid legally old enough to see a pg-13 movie.
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