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The Sonic the Hedgehog Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by StevieOpossum, Aug 10, 2013.

  1. StevieOpossum

    StevieOpossum Well-Known Member

    I noticed there wasn't a thread about the series in general, so...yeah.

    I love almost all the games in series, with the exceptions of Secret Rings and Sonic '06. The TV shows are really good, too, but that's mainly because it's so bad, that it's good. AoStH is the best adaption, IMO (not because of "SnooPINGAS usual, I see"). I can't get into the Archie comics, too different from the games.

    Pretty much everything about the series is great, except for the fanbase (I won't get into that again). The voice acting got really good after Sonic Colors, so that's not really a problem anymore.
  2. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    *flings self into thread and pitches a tent*

    I'll be staying here for a while. Here, have a muffin. *gives AquaGGR a muffin*

    So basically, the list will be shorter if I say what games I haven't played, not including the arcade games or mobile games
    • Sonic Chronicles
    • Sonic Rush (the first one)
    • Sonic 06
    • Shadow the hedgehog
    • Sonic Colors
    • Pocket Adventure
    • Any of the Sonic Riders games
    I might be forgetting some Game Gear games, but the point is I've played almost all major console releases. Oh, and I actually have Sonic Jump on my kindle. I got it for free, otherwise its not worth three bucks when you can get Sonic CD for the same price :B

    Secret Rings has the main problem of being an early wii game, meaning it was in the wave of games who felt the need to use motion control. I've never had a problem with the motion control personally, except during the final boss fight. That was just...my god...no. Possibly the worst final boss ever.
  3. StevieOpossum

    StevieOpossum Well-Known Member

    *saves muffin to muffin other threads*

    Anyways, here's the list of Sonic games I've played. I actually haven't played that many, but still, Sonic's awesome.

    • Sonic the Hedgehog
    • Sonic 4: Eps. 1
    • Sonic Dash
    • Sonic Generations
    • Sonic Unleashed
    • Sonic '06
    • Sonic Adventure
    • Shadow the Hedgehog
    • Sonic Rush
    • Sonic the Hedgehog: Triple Trouble (I think that's what it's called)
    I played a demo of Sonic Heroes on this one disc full of GC demos, but haven't played the full version. I currently have Sonic Riders, Sonic Colors, and Sonic Adventure 2 on my Sonic wishlist. I actually prefer the 3D to the 2D. I own Sonic and Knuckles and I think Sonic 3, but have yet to play it.

    I have a quick question, who voices Sonic in Sonic CD when he says "I'm outta here!" and jumps off the screen if you leave the game on too long? It sounds kinda odd, so maybe his Japanese voice actor did it?
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The worst cartoon is Sonic Underground. It has a high concept, but it meanders into Aesop material, and then there's those terrible music numbers. Okay... I get that Steve Urkle can't sing... but must you get off key, high pitched, scratchy voiced terrible singers to sing for them? That's totally against the point of giving someone a non-singing singing voice. No matter how one of them is Double D.

    But AOSTH. I don't get why it falls into the so bad it's good pile. It's intentionally goofy, after all. So Bad it's Good works for things that don't know they're bad. Sonic and Tails are pretty cartoonishly 2 dimensional, and all the humor comes from the villains. Long John Baldry gave a delightfully hammy interpretation of the character. His plans were standard cartoon fair that clearly could never work (yet sometimes did, if temporarily). And the animation was wonderfully wonky. Not the greatest thing, but certainly not Filmation stiff. In all respects, it is a dumb cartoon. But a cartoon that revels in its own dumbness, with breakout villains... and the funny thing is, it's the most game accurate cartoon.

    I actually own a cel of Scratch, Grounder, and Coconuts just about to abduct Tails from "Trail of the Missing Tails."
  5. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    I like Underground more for Sleet and Dingo myself. And perhaps Bartleby. :D
  6. StevieOpossum

    StevieOpossum Well-Known Member

    I always end up rooting for the villains in AoStH, Scratch and Grounder are much more likeable than Sonic in the series.

    This. SU is my second-to-least favorite Sonic cartoon (least favorite is SatAm), because of the bizarre look of the animals and the terrible songs. I'm glad the series is getting the ending resolved in comic book form instead of cartoon.

    There are rumors of a new Sonic cartoon, if it becomes a reality, maybe the fans will stop whining about lack of story.
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Sleet and Dingo are pretty good. I don't even mind the three Sonics all voiced by Urkle. Those are concepts and things that worked. It's just how the show was put together that doesn't work all that well. I mean, it's not as terrible as American Street Fighter, the animated Mortal Kombat for kids, and Double Dragon that had nothing to do with the video game until they made one that did. But those music numbers are nails on a chalkboard.
  8. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Wow, maybe this one will actually be good. I never really liked any of the Sonic cartoons, although I don't think I've seen Underground. The concept seems really strange to me though *shrugs*
  9. StevieOpossum

    StevieOpossum Well-Known Member

    Who's the best voice acter for Sonic? The majority of the fans say it's Ryan Drummond, but he's my least favorite. His Sonic performance was kinda bland. I personally think Roger Craig Smith is the best, even though he makes Sonic sound a little bit older. The personality is spot on.

    From greatest to least:

    Roger Craig Smith
    Jaleel White
    Jason Griffith
    Ryan Drummond

    I thought Jason Griffith got really good right BEFORE he was replaced. His acting in Black Knight was pretty good.
  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    But it is about time they made a new Sonic cartoon. I mean, I like X and all, but it's time to give that a rest. Even Saban's running the reruns into the ground.

    I hope they get whoever does the video game voice talent currently to voice their respective characters. They never get these guys to match up. And I hope Cubot and Orbot are part of the series.

    Now all we need is a new, more game accurate, Mario series.
  11. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I have all of the important Sonic games for Sega Genesis, and three of the games for Game Gear. I also have Sonic Mega Collection +, it was good to finally play Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine and some of the Game Gear games I not only hadn't played but hadn't heard of.

    I remember when I first heard of Sonic, it was in a commercial which mentioned the game coming with the Genesis, and I didn't realize the Genesis was a video game system (at the time I thought the only video game systems were NES, Game Boy, and maybe Super Nintendo). I thought Sonic was a NES game (I grew up after Atari lost popularity and years before lots of non-Nintendo systems became more successful). I didn't know what the Genesis was but thought it was an adult product. I wanted to play Sonic but didn't want whatever it was it came with.

    The first time I played Sonic the Hedgheog was on a Genesis on display at Target, and I then knew that it wasn't for Nintendo. Then my babysitter's household got a Sega Genesis and I was able to play the Genesis games more. Since I had the NES I didn't expect to ever get any other big consoles and didn't ask for any, but then in 1996 I not only got my own Genesis but also a Sega CD, Sonic CD being one of the few really good ones.

    Before I got the Genesis I had asked for the Game Gear. I had asked for a Game Boy for Christmas, and my mom told me about the Game Gear, which I hadn't heard of. Then I saw the commercials and when I saw that Sonic games were included I decided I'd rather have the Game Gear. In fact although I'd seen the commercials I don't remember knowing Sonic's name until that time.

    When I got my Game Gear for Christmas Sonic 2 was one of only two games (along with Columns) I got. At first I thought the Sonic games were exactly the same on the Genesis and Game Gear. I wanted the first Sonic game but for some reason stores were sold out of the Game Gear version for quite awhile (I would have thought the sequel would have that affect... Or maybe it was also hard to find Sonic 2 and I just didn't notice because I already had that game). My babysitter's family got their Genesis after I got my Game Gear, and it's interesting that they got Sonic 1 first but I got Sonic 2 first They had ordered a copy of Sonic 2 and had to wait, and I finally got a copy of Sonic 1 for Game Gear before they did, and was suprised to see how different it was.

    I didn't watch the cartoons often. For some reason my local ABC station tended to show local news instead of saturday morning shows (though there were occasional exceptions), and I didn't like that I saw commercials for shows advertised on ABC's saturday morning line-up that I couldn't see. I occasionally caught Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog and thought it was good (I think it was usually on when I had to go to school). A few years ago I started learning a bit about the two Sonic cartoons, and by coincidence (I hadn't talked about what I learend to anyone) my brother got me a copy of the complete Sonic the Hedgehog SatAM series, which was okay. Then I saw The Nostalgia Critic's review of the two shows and really wanted to see Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog... and eventually found a single-disc release of episodes for about 5 dollars. I think Adventures was a lot better.
  12. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I've beaten some of the games as part of Sonic Mega Collection +, where you can save the games. Of course I didn't get all of the emeralds, which would make it debatable whether it really counts as beating the game.

    But on the Sonic Mega Collection I completed Sonic 1 and 3. I made it to the last level and after playing these last few years still haven't been able to beat it (the second-to-last level is also frustratingly hard, I kept hitting "save" after each check point). I also completed Sonic CD on the iPhone.

    The classic games are the best, but I've also played a good number of later games. I've played a little of Sonic Adventures 2, as well as Sonic 4, Sonic Colors, and Sonic Generations. I also have the Black Knight game on the wii, but have only played it once (I struggled to figure out the controls and such).

    I've never played any of those Mario and Sonic games. Back when I was younger it would have been a bigger deal if those two appeared together (and in my head I thought it'd be cool if they met and switched moves - Mario would spin-dash, Sonic would get fire power and so on). But by the time the first one was released the pairing no longer had the impact it would have back in the early '90s. I think a lot of fans dislike those games, so it's a wonder there's been a sequel, let alone two. I guess sales were better than the ans reactions.
  13. StevieOpossum

    StevieOpossum Well-Known Member

    TRU has an overload of every Sonic show EXCEPT Sonic X. I had to get the DVDs through Amazon. TRU mostly carries CookieJar DVDs, so that's probably why there's no Sonic X.
  14. StevieOpossum

    StevieOpossum Well-Known Member

    I think Jason Griffith (Sonic's VA from Sonic X to Black Knight) would be able to pull of voicing Scratch. His voice he uses for Jet the Hawk sounds kinda similar.
  15. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    When I was younger I was scared of the music that plays whenever Sonic is about to run out of air. I would always dread playing underwater because of it, and whenever I could I'd turn the volume down all the way. At least on the game gear games the music wasn't as loud or frightening (and is it just me or is the underwater timer on the game gear games slower than on the Genesis ones?).

    In Sonic Triple Trouble, Sonic can use a submarine underwater but Tails can't. It made it hard for me to decide which one to play as.... If I pick Sonic I could use the submarine and avoid the out-of-air alert (of course I can't remember if Sonic could automatically get the submarine when getting in water or if he'd have to find it) but if I pick Tails I can fly. Decisions, decisions...

    I kept thinking it was odd that Sonic can't breathe under water or swim. Mario could be under water for as long as possible without running out of air (well, except for in Mario 64),

    Has anybody seen the web series Sonic for Hire? It involves Sonic and Tails being unemployed and taking on many odd jobs from various video game characters. I must warn you, though, that the humor is very adult (I'd like to say it gives South Park a run for its money, but I also feel that's not quite right).
  16. StevieOpossum

    StevieOpossum Well-Known Member

    There's a really weird thing that happens in Sonic CD when you access the hidden Sound Test, if you enter in a certain combination, you'll be sent to a screen filled with Sonic's wearing disturbing and bizarre faces (hollow eyes, moustaches, and mouths agape). While the sentence "Fun is infinite with SEGA Enterprisess ~ Demon" is displayed on the screen in Japanese. The boss music also plays while this is happened. Apparently, this screen would appear if you pirated the game. It gives me an uneasy feeling nothingless.
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That's because all the Sonic X DVD's are long out of print. They were made way back before 4Kids and Funimation (who distributed most of their DVD's) had a huge falling out over profits of said DVD's.. especially the uncut Yu-Gi-Oh and Shaman King DVD's, which only 2 of each were made. And since 4Kids is gone now anyway, whoever got the rights (I'm guessing Saban) would have to put these on DVD. I wonder if they're even still up on hulu.
  18. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    One thing that I always liked was the bonus games. Those were usually fun. Though these days I'm not as big a fan of the bonus games in Sonic 2 and play those a lot less. I think the bonus games in the first one are the best. I usually get a "d'oh!" feeling if I get passed the goal with one ring short.
  19. StevieOpossum

    StevieOpossum Well-Known Member

    Oh well, at least the Sonic X DVDs are still available on Netflix and Amazon. Strangely, 4Kids official YouTube channel lets you watch complete Sonic X episodes for free.
  20. StevieOpossum

    StevieOpossum Well-Known Member

    Why does a lot of people have a big problem with Sonic? Gamesradar and GameInformer act like he burned their crops, poisoned their water, and delivered a plague onto their houses.

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