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The State of the World

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by jvcarroll, Dec 7, 2017 at 12:18 PM.

  1. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    Now that the other thread seems to have been burned, I've decided to start a fresh new one. We'll see if this works. The title is intentionally neutral. Here's the framework I'm hoping for:
    • Share what you want about anything, large or small, that's going on in the world. It doesn't have to just be political.
    • Try to offer or solicit constructive solutions, not just cynicism and griping. Let's see what we can do to make things better (even in our small circles).
    • Treat others with dignity and respect, even if their viewpoint is bizarre and strange, because we get nowhere by shaming other people. We don't have to respect a viewpoint, but we should try to respect the person who holds it.
    • Think before we post. Take a pause and consider if what we're putting out in the world is helpful to the discussion or if it just makes us feel better in the moment. No passive-aggressive quips, gas-lighting or antagonizing others for amusement
    • The goal here is not to win a debate. It's to learn from each other and to build bridges between people and ideas: common ground, where it can be found.
    • Listen to others and actually read their posts if we are responding to them.
    • When in doubt, choose grace and kindness. We could all use a little more of that.
    If anyone else has something to add, please add it. I want this to be a constructive place for everybody to actually discuss issues. Here goes nothing...
     
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  2. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    Here are my thoughts on the Franken controversy: It appears the Democrats have instituted a new zero tolerance policy. There are definitely different degrees, but no one deserves to be harassed, in any way, while doing their job and our party must lead by example. I love Al Franken's politics and comedy, but we must NOT see him as a victim. He behaved inappropriately to enough people enough times in order to receive this outcry. Some feel this is an overreaction. I won't argue with that, but it's an important reaction that's been a long time coming. We are no longer in the days of Bill Clinton where liberals are going to let our leaders get away with harassment, abuse or lechery. We are here, in this moment, and moving forward to a better place for all. That is what is should mean to be a Progressive.
     
  3. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    When I was younger, I thought that Al Franken was always a politician. Turns out that he used to be an actor and a comedy writer.
     
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  4. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Not Franken-related, but I don't quite understand the new hate on "baby-gender-reveal parties." I mean, I get why, but it seems like a petty, "next-step" thing to complain about after gender neutral bathrooms.

    OK, so the gender of a child may not depend on the parents or doctors, but it's one-time party that happens even before the baby is born. Who cares? What harm does it do?
     
  5. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    We simply go too far sometimes and I agree. A baby's a baby and, at that time, it's all that's really known. I do have an issue with boys and girls being treated differently, but gender reveal parties aren't a big deal. Let the mother have her day with her child. She's certainly earned it!
     
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  6. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Honestly I'm just sick of people in general making a big deal on sex vs gender.

    Granted, I will still say "sir" or "ma'am" when I address strangers cause how the heck am I supposed to know how you live your life, but putting that aside, I just don't get why people can't leave the subject alone nor do I get why the media has to make every story of a person coming off as trans like the number one story and we have to respect them even if, for all we know, they could be a terrible person with a selfish attitude.
     
  7. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

  8. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Ronald Reagan was an actor, and even starred alongside a monkey at one point in his film career.
     
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  9. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    The correct answer to this is simple. Behave like you always have until someone corrects you about how they'd like to be addressed. It's not a big deal. Some trans folk and others are mean about such stuff. I can understand why some of them are, but trans or otherwise, people should always be kind to each other. The answer, as always, is kindness. I think a lot of hypothetical narratives are spun and presumptions are made. Right now, the trans community is at risk more than any other minority. It's time for empathy and compassion. Once a trans person tells you the pronouns they'd like you to use once addressing them, use them. Easy peasy. Before then, people might not know.
     
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  10. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    A good video about the state of the world...
     
  11. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    I knew that of course. :p
     
  12. 1000 Eyes

    1000 Eyes Well-Known Member

    This is something I think is becoming much more apparent lately. Not too long ago Starbucks was getting attacked for having cups that somehow was furthering left-wing propaganda and pushing gay ideas on others. My response was something to the effect of :p .
     
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  13. muppetgem

    muppetgem Well-Known Member

    I really hope this thread doesn't become toxic like the other politics thread...
     
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  14. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    It will. I'm counting on it.

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  15. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    I don’t think it’s going to.
     
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  16. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Due keep in mind to anyone in general on this forum, I don't actually mean to be serious when I say stuff like this. I'm just being a smart***.

    Who knows.... Maybe this will turn out better.... Maybe it won't. We'll see.

    Some of you already probably caught onto my smart guy humor, some of you probably haven't. Just thought I might as well mention it.
     
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  17. 1000 Eyes

    1000 Eyes Well-Known Member

    Stealing from me. :scary:
     
  18. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Indeed.

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  19. 1000 Eyes

    1000 Eyes Well-Known Member

  20. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    It will turn toxic if you let it. "I expect it to" implies you will let it.
     


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