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The Steven Universe thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by mr3urious, Nov 5, 2013.

  1. ConsummateVs

    ConsummateVs Well-Known Member

    This is an unrelated post made by D'Snowth in another thread, but I thought I'd share it here:
    Unlike many movie sequels, I think Steven Universe is very good at handling their supporting/side characters. Sure, there's many of them, both gem and human - like the residents of Beach City for example - but they're all unique. They each have their own personalities and traits, and they're not generic cookie-cutter characters created only to occupy space or to be someone's love interest.

    According to Rebecca Sugar, nearly every character on SU is important in some way. Even Ronaldo is important, because he's the one that foreshadowed the Diamonds at the end of 'Keep Beach City Weird'. Marty is important, too, because when you think about it, if it weren't for him, Greg wouldn't have met Rose, and furthermore, Steven wouldn't have been born.

    On a side note, Rebecca once stated that each character has appeared/will appear more than once, which means that the Zircons and the Off Colors will most likely be back sometime in Season 5.
     
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  2. ConsummateVs

    ConsummateVs Well-Known Member

    So I just came across these on YouTube:


    This is pretty much my reaction:
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  3. ConsummateVs

    ConsummateVs Well-Known Member

    ARRRRGH THEY GOT DELETED. Oh well. I guess we'll just have to keep waiting until the show comes back...
     
  4. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    One of my biggest frustrations with the show is the fact that Peedee hasn't had much development the whole show. He had an interesting story about coming closer to his father and growing up all the way back in season 1 with Frybo. I thought his character and the episode were very compelling, but that was it. Sure he still shows up occasionally, but he's never an important part of the story. Somehow, his brother, arguably the only character with little to no character development at all, keeps getting episodes centered around him. You would think Peedee would get more to do, especially since he's one of Steven's only friends close to his age.
     
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  5. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    I see what you mean. Maybe the writers find Ronaldo more fun to write for. Either way, Peedee should hopefully get more screen time and development, as the writers did for Connie, Mr. Smiley, Onion, Sour Cream, and others.
     
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  6. ConsummateVs

    ConsummateVs Well-Known Member

    I agree, I miss Peedee. And I also kinda liked how waaaay back around "Frybo", before Connie was introduced, Peedee seemed like one of Steven's closest friends. But now, like you said, he hardly shows up at all, except for cameos in the background. I hope he gets some more screen time in season 5, WHEN SU FINALLY COMES BACK.

    Also, on a related note, I hate it when people call episodes that focus on the humans instead of the gems "filler". Just... really?? It's called character development, not "filler". SU dosen't have to be deep and plot-heavy in every frickin' episode. Sometimes, we just need some breather eps after all the crazy stuff. OKAY? *panting, out of breath* Phew. I really needed to get that rant out.
     
  7. ConsummateVs

    ConsummateVs Well-Known Member

    Waiting for SU to come back like:
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  8. snichols1973

    snichols1973 Well-Known Member

    I caught a subtle reference to S.U. on "The List" episode of The Amazing World of Gumball, when Gumball was attempting a strange type of first aid, and he asked for "two amethysts and a lapis lazuli"...
     
  9. ConsummateVs

    ConsummateVs Well-Known Member

    Well, looks like we got another new trailer!

    Apparently, the new episodes will air on the Cartoon Network app first, and then air on the actual channel later on. That sucks for those who don't have the app, including me. :(
    Well, he could have just been referring to the actual gemstones, but given that SU and AWOG are on the same channel, you never know...
     
  10. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    I probably shouldn't be telling you this but, almost every time new episodes premiere on the app, someone on YouTube usually uploads them soon after in very good quality.
     
  11. ConsummateVs

    ConsummateVs Well-Known Member

    I hate leaks. Whenever a new episode gets leaked, everyone watches it online before the episode officially airs. When the episode airs, not a whole lot of people watch it because they already saw it online, and the show gets bad ratings, bringing it closer to being canceled.

    We're lucky the app viewers count towards the ratings, because otherwise, it would seem like Cartoon Network is trying to get the show cancelled in favor of more Teen Titans Go.

    I just don't understand why CN seems to hate SU so much. It's a very popular, well-liked show that has a strong fanbase and earns them good ratings. I wish CN was aware that everyone is sick of TTG and that they should stop shoving not just SU but all the other shows off to the side to air reruns all day long (*cough cough* Adventure Time). At least CN in the UK gives SU the attention it deserves.
     
  12. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I believe I read that their poor treatment of SU is because its continuity; it's not really able to air episodes out of order in re-runs because there's tons of stuff that's out of context and the "bombs" are a way of managing that. TTG, I don't watch so I only assume, is just a series of random episodes that have no throughline story thread, thus, can be shown at any point with no regards to missing anything.
     
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  13. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    That makes sense, I guess. I kind of wish more shows were less continuity heavy. I really like the self contained stories of older cartoons (Courage the Cowardly Dog, Fairly Odd Parents, etc.), it allows for more variety and avoids the tediousness of shows with long arcs. At the same time though, without a recurring storyline and an end goal in mind, it's probably much harder to come up with new stories in each episode. Not to mention, the character development in arc shows can be very interesting to watch, and can give the show more weight and meaning.
     
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  14. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    It also rewards those who have watched the show from the beginning (or for a long time) whenever they reference events and jokes from past episodes, or foreshadow stuff in future episodes. :)
     
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  15. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    That's also true. It kind of goes along with, shows with arcs do tend to have much more dedicated fans.
     
  16. snichols1973

    snichols1973 Well-Known Member

    As of this past Friday, new (and long-overdue) episodes of Steven Universe are on Cartoon Network again with
    Steven going through a break-up with Connie after he hastily left for Gem Homeworld and impulsively took on the burden by himself instead of having her accompany him...
     
  17. snichols1973

    snichols1973 Well-Known Member

    The feeling is even more agonizing when the new season starts off with a handful of episodes stretched out over a span of 4 to 6 weeks, only to learn that it will be several months before what may turn out to be another small handful of episodes...

    It almost seems strange that the new SU episodes come out in trickles, as compared to We Bare Bears, Gumball, Teen Titans Go! and other shows (particularly newer ones like Unikitty and OK K.O. Let's Be Heroes! that release a new episode every week)...

    On the brighter side of things,
    Steven reconciles with Connie, who has a new hairstyle, and they go into space to check on Lars, who is now captain of the Off-Color gems, and Stevonnie gets stranded on a strange alien moon, with Captain Lars coming to the rescue...
     
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  18. snichols1973

    snichols1973 Well-Known Member

    I don't think it's Cartoon Network, but the morally conservative members of other countries (especially places such as Europe, the Philipppines, southeast Asia, and Middle Eastern ones with strong Muslim majorities) that dislike certain aspects (scenes, dialogue, accidental innuendos or double entendres) of the show, such as LGBT themes, parts of the dialogue that get lost in foreign translation or come across as awkward to the point where the questionable scenes are edited out of the international airings:

    In the Netherlands, the "watching myself die" line from "Steven and the Stevens" must have been considered too harsh (in spite of the fact that euthanasia has been legalized in the Netherlands), so it was replaced with an alternate lyric in the Dutch language dub...

    This page has more info on what foreign countries found offensive about the show:
    https://steven-universe.wikia.com/wiki/Censorship_in_Foreign_Countries
     
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  19. snichols1973

    snichols1973 Well-Known Member

    One theory as to how a human gem (Steven) and regular human (Connie) can fuse into Stevonnie:

    Connie, being the successor to Rose Quartz's sword and scabbard (and its gemstones), is able to fuse with Steven because the gems in the sword and shield have made it possible...
     
  20. snichols1973

    snichols1973 Well-Known Member

    So far, the biggest stunner of all is in "A Single Pale Rose", where

    Steven discovers that his mother, Rose Quartz, was once Pink Diamond, and she had Pearl sworn to secrecy about Pink Diamond faking her death by pretending to shatter her gemstone and Pearl shape-shifting into Rose Quartz so that Pink Diamond could give up her royal status and be free of the burdens of aristocratic society.

    It feels good to know that Steven Universe will be returning for another season since the most recent episode and season concluded on a "To be continued" cliffhanger...
     


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