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The Wander over Yonder Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by mr3urious, Sep 2, 2015.

  1. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    Well, regardless of what will happen, I'm adamant that we haven't seen the last of Wander and the others.

    If there's one thing I can't abide in the complicated world of television business, it's the way that a meaningful yet underrated show gets treated like it's a waste of time. Goodness knows why fewer people watched WOY while more people watched other shows. You'd think people who watch P&F, GF, and SvtFoE on Disney XD would have access to WOY.
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  2. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    Get a load of this:

    The folks running the channel were thoughtful enough to bring up 107 facts about the show. There may be a few errors (e.g. The voice said The Void and The Funk were from Season 2), but nothing serious. Oddly, when they mentioned Jennifer Hale and Demurra, they left out Ripov, who I believe is one of the fan favorites.

    Oh, and just the other day, I noticed Kirby Buckets (that live-action show about a kid whose doodles come to life) has a third season going on. I know what you're thinking. "How is that even possible?" They stop Wander Over Yonder after two seasons, but they let some other shows that debuted after WOY keep going regardless of their popularity? I'm just about as puzzled as you are. Looking back on the Nielsen ratings for WOY, I can't help but think that the fans blame either the majority of the viewers for not tuning in or Disney for fouling up the chance to advertise.

    That being said, tonight's the Annie Awards and Wander Over Yonder has a chance to win at least one. Other Disney shows that are nominated for some other categories are Gravity Falls (fortunately, it's not up against Wander), Milo Murphy's Law, Elena of Avalor, and, surprise-surprise, Paul Rudish's take on Mickey Mouse. What do you suppose people like best about the latter? The shorts are usually less than five minutes long and some of them would make John Kricfalusi proud. I'd hate to have them think that the shorts are WAY better than WOY episodes. WOY has more heart than most people think, and winning at least one or two should be enough to compel Disney to have Craig put his fourth show idea on hold and finish his third show HIS way and not Disney's way.
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  3. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    At least there are no nominations that are undeserving.
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  4. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Yup, this is one of the few times when i'd be okay with all the nominees winning. Although, I think I have a slight bias towards Gravity Falls.
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  5. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    Well, the show didn't win any one of the three, but that doesn't faze me. After all, recognition is better than nothing. Besides, it occurred to me that if it had won even one, the crew would have felt it went on a high note.

    Clay Satterfield has proof that just because a show hasn't won doesn't mean all is lost: http://kureisan28.tumblr.com/post/156833435460/thoughts-on-wander-over-yonders-status-on-the

    Do what you will, but I'll continue to support the SaveWOY so the show can be finished Craig's way and not Disney's way.
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  6. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    Over a year has passed since the public got the news about the uncalled-for cancellation, which Craig and the crew already knew back in late July of 2015. Already, I started to pick up more on the possible causes of Disney's decidedly despicable decision. For one thing, digital platforming became a thing in early 2015 right after all season one episodes aired. This allowed certain shows, especially Star vs. the Forces of Evil, which premiered in early 2015, to have better luck in ratings outside of television. What I'm getting at is, digital platforming came too late.

    One the plus side, the show's been nominated for the Irish Animation Awards (the second season was animated at Boulder Media, based in Ireland) in three categories:
    • Kids' Choice Award for Best Animated Series
    • Best VFX as part of Animated TV Series or Film
    • Best Irish Feature Film or Special - My Fair Hatey (I never get tired of reading the title)
    I've even come up with some thought-provoking pieces of philosophy.
    • Hater is an anagram of Heart.
    • Who are the executives to stand in the way of a season cartoonist's creative freedom?
    • What's the point of keeping an unfinished show in the archives if they don't let its creator finish it his way?
    • If there's one thing Wander and I have in common, we're both interested in making life better for everyone.

    Frank Angones, the story editor of WOY, said on his Tumblr account, without revealing anything specific, that the third season was going to introduce three new threats much worse than Dominator, and they represent ego, id, and superego.

    And that space chimp? It's an entirely different character dubbed "Monkeyboy." The Hater Chimp theory had already been debunked almost a year ago. He may have facial features similar to Hater's, but they're completely separate. If you think about it, Hater has some body parts that are more human-like than ape-like, so that makes sense.
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  7. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    Trending 27th is coming up and it's going to be about sending love to Craig McCracken. His birthday is on the 31st, so I've a feeling this will be even bigger than the other Trending 27ths. At the moment, the fans are either brainstorming ideas or working on them. Sooner or later, Disney executives will rue the day they cross Craig.
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  8. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    *Correction: Disney executives will rue the day they crossed Craig.
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  9. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    ChannelFrederator recently uploaded a new Whatever Happened To It?! video concerning Wander Over Yonder's discontinuation. I should tell you, though, nobody did some thorough fact-checking before they uploaded it. For example, the narrator says Craig has no plans for a new show. That's bupkis - in reality, he's already working on a pilot for a serialized action comedy show. They also forgot to mention Craig and the WOY crew's interest in returning to complete it if given the chance, as well as how season one's ratings on Disney XD prompted Disney to discontinue the show before The Greater Hater premiered.

    I'm having this feeling that if a show that hardly fits Disney's standards gets picked up for a third season (and maybe a fourth), I'll have three words in mind: This means war. Seriously, though, we know better than that. Surely there's some way to put an end to this uncertainty plaguing the minds of Wander fans.

    How about this: the extra money other Disney shows make are saved up to give WOY one more season. Or what if WOY was given a new name for the final season: Wander Over Yonder: Just You And Me. I got that idea after learning that VeggieTales in the House continued under a new name: VeggieTales in the City.
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  10. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    I found that Disney is still receiving SaveWOY letters and emails. Frank Angones confirmed it himself.

    "Yup. They are the most politely written complaints they've ever seen. And they've sparked good conversation as to how to engage fanbases who feel a sense of ownership of shows even after the shows are gone."

    Things are certainly taking a turn for the better, but we mustn't cease our support for the show. I've been recording episodes of season two on demand (because they don't have episodes of season one at this time) just to boost some interest. If saving the show requires me to watch the entire season on demand, like, 7 more times, I'm willing to take that chance. I not only purchased the two seasons on iTunes several months ago, but I recently purchased over $40 worth of personalized items (a travel mug with Wander on it and a mouse pad with the WOY logo on the bottom left corner). Still, I wonder what more they want.

    I'd also like to mention there are fan-made items that make up for Disney's lack of WOY merchandising. So far, we've gotten five months made and uploaded by "wanderin-over-yonder" (@narbleflarf on Twitter) - they even show characters on the birth dates of the people who voiced them (very clever). Speaking of birth dates, there will be another Trending 27th coming up and what luck! Jack McBrayer's birthday is on May 27th.

    Lastly, Craig is working on the pilot for his fourth show, which, by the way, is based on an old idea he had before Wander Over Yonder came around.
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  11. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    To any clueless viewer, it may seem as though Disney's no longer supportive of Wander Over Yonder. WRONG! Check out the image taken from a search on http://www.disneyabcpress.com/disneyxd/calendar/

    Sure, it'll be on during the night, but recording shows on the DVR isn't a bad idea. It's like Peepers said in The Bad Neighbors, "Whether it's stopping a powerful villainess or throwing the perfect barbecue, when the chips are down sometimes you need a small win to give you the confidence for a big win."

    If you ask me, if Disney had absolutely no faith in the show, it would never have been promoted at D23 in 2013.

    And on a related topic, Peepsqueak has started a brand new project called Codename F.O.R.C.E. (Fan-made Operation Regarding Conquering Earth). What you do is print out a Hater flag design, make the flag out of craft tools, take pictures of the flag in various places around the world, and submit the pictures to Operation FORCE.

    Here's a link if you're curious to know more about it:
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  12. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    For those of you who own a DirecTV DVR and are living in the west coast - reruns start at 7 PM (starting with The Rager/The Good Bad Guy, of course). So if I were you, I'd show some support by watching recording the episodes IMMEDIATELY! Those who miss out should have an explanation.
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  13. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    Guess what! The Disney Now app is now available on iTunes's app store and Google Play. It includes shows from Disney Channel, Disney Junior, and Disney XD, and get this, Wander Over Yonder is one of them. As of now, only the entire first season can be watched (maybe the second season will be added in the future), so now's your chance to check it out and prove to Disney that demand for the show is rising.

    If any one you are newcomers who haven't seen the first season (or even purchased the two seasons on iTunes or whatever), you'd best make sure you've seen "The Hero" and "The Date" before watching "The Enemies" - just one of the few instances of show continuity.

    On a somewhat related topic, Craig is nearly done with the pilot for his fourth cartoon. One thing's for sure, he did not leave Cartoon Network with two hit shows under his belt to be denied the privilege to end his first show for Disney his way. If enough people care about what he's done for the company, the executives who decided to discontinue WOY (four of them if I'm not mistaken) will change their mind - if not, we could always find replacements with a just sense of equality.
  14. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    Hey! Hey! Heyheyheyheyheyhey!

    If you remember getting a brief glimpse of that one shot of the colorful ship adorned with stars, smiles, and orbbles (from The Waste of Time)...


    ...then you’ll be in for quite a treat.

    I was on Twitter one early Sunday morning (yesterday) and discovered this...

    An image of a brief cameo taken from the S1 finale of Future-Worm, which aired on Disney XD channels outside of America.

    I’m guessing the ship that carried the hooded refugees gets a huge makeover and Wander and Sylvia receive it as a gift of gratitude, allowing them to explore the restored galaxy in a whole new way. The ship is called, and I quote, “The Star Nomad”!

    I got word that there are three other shows that also get brief cameos:
    • Gravity Falls (I’m already over it because (1) it got a definite ending — in mid-February of 2016, (2) it’s still gosh darn popular, and (3) most of its fans aren’t helping with the SaveWOY movement, and I find that disturbing, especially when they rarely acknowledge that cameo/nod/parody in The Cartoon.)
    • Star vs. the Forces of Evil (I stopped watching it after two seasons because of the same two latter facts I mentioned regarding GF. And I’m pretty sure some people will mistake the words for Star Wars: Forces of Destiny.)
    • Pickle and Peanut (I’m not quite sure what Disney sees in it, but complaints about it continue to fall on blind eyes and deaf ears. What’s more, a little bit of merchandising has been planned for it.)
    According to Craig’s Tumblr post about the dreadful news about Wander’s uncalled-for cancellation, the bosses of DTVA and DXD were excited about the third season pitch before it got denied, so we have to talk some sense into the bosses higher than them (4 to be exact).

    If we want to find out more about The Star Nomad, the space primate, Hater’s backstory, where Peepers and the Watchdogs came from, and the fate of Dominator, we must keep spreading awareness of the show in every possible way. Me? I’ve recently dropped off a little note for the people affected by the Las Vegas tragedy.


    What will you do to help people and spread awareness?
  15. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    Seems to me that I'm the only one on this forum paying close attention to this cartoon.

    Anyway, attention, forum users! Wander Over Yonder reruns are back! And with season one included, no less! There are 37 half-hours set to air this weekend, so it will soon be time to show Disney how much we still care about WOY. If you have a DVR, I strongly recommend recording it.

    For too long, Disney has been shoving reruns of Phineas and Ferb and Gravity Falls down America's throat. Are we going to let the success of those shows (plus Star vs. the Forces of Evil and other cancellation-proof shows) get in the way of giving Wander one more season? No. Are we going to let the love put into the show go unnoticed? No. Are we going to let the whole show end without Wander successfully befriending Lord Hater? No. Are we going to let that space pod in the second season finale animatic remain a mystery? No. Are we going to let the Save WOY movement end in vain? No! You should get the idea by now.

    We must act when the time comes (Friday night/Saturday morning, early Sunday morning, and Sunday afternoon to early Monday morning).
  16. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    As long as tweencoms aren't being shoved down our throats instead, I'm cool with that. Or Pickle & Peanut.
  17. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    It's almost starting to sound like you have some sort of personal vendetta against Disney's other cartoons.
  18. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    Hope y'all got the episodes recorded. Oddly, there was one missing: The Battle Royale. It's kind of important - apart from everyone learning of Lord Dominator's true gender, the episode features General McGuffin getting zapped into a bucket of chicken and the Black Cube having second thoughts about villainy after failing to pick up the "Ring of Invincibility."

    Well, when you grow up familiarizing yourself with an experienced cartoonist and his two hit shows for CN and find out that he went to a different company to make an original, well-animated show, which got promoted at D23 in 2013, you become attached to how that one show is being treated. And in the resurgence of DTVA, you expect Disney to treat every creatively conceived show right. If you find that the one show you enjoy very much doesn't get one more season for proper closure because its first season ratings aren't on par with the higher ratings of the other shows, you feel a total sense of injustice. You also feel that by watching the more successful cartoons, you give Disney the impression that there's no interest in the show they left on a cliffhanger.

    I don't mean to oppose Disney's other shows, I'm just resentful of Disney's lack of equality in the TV department. Who wouldn't be disappointed in the executives for denying Craig McCracken, a cartoonist with more than 20 years of experience, a third and final season in which Wander would be tested?

    There are plenty of reasons to be interested in a third season besides the story arc about testing Wander in every possible way (like how the second season tested Lord Hater):
    • A threat worse than Lord Dominator - while Dominator exploited everyone's weaknesses, the threat would exploit everyone's strengths.
    • Lord Hater having to deal with his savior-of-the-galaxy status and trying to stay evil.
    • Commander Peepers being tempted to a darker side.
    • Dominator being the first to appear in the season, still roaming the cosmos and complaining about her defeat, followed something "delightfully petty but still wholly Dominator" happening later.
    • Hater's origin story.
    • Return of previous characters (both S1 and S2) and introduction of new characters.
    • More of Sylvia's past as a bounty hunter.
    • Origin of the Watchdogs.
    • Maybe some hints about Wander's past to tie in with the story arc.
    So until I get to see these ideas happen, I've decided to put off watching a third season of any cartoon Disney has to offer. It is fortunate that cartoons this year got very good finales. Some that had hiatuses (Regular Show, Penn Zero: Part-Time Hero) and others that came back after cancellation (either with a season like Samurai Jack or with a TV movie like Hey Arnold!). I expect that one day, Wander Over Yonder will have something along the lines of such big finishes.

    Keep your eyes open - there's another little marathon coming up on December 16th (from 11 AM to 3:30 PM)!
  19. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    Looks like I have a minor error in my list.


    When I think of this, I imagine Dominator finishing off the orange, pulling out her smartphone (with a crack or two from the damage she incurred), and looking at the picture she took in The Flower (that has to play a key role somehow).
  20. C to the J

    C to the J Well-Known Member

    Another marathon tonight on Disney XD (The Big Day through The Waste of Time) at 7:00 PM - 3:30 AM or 10:00 PM - 6:30 AM. Record it if you’d like to save it. I know I will.

    And when the streaming service launches, I’m hoping that’s where we’ll get to see the cliffhanger get resolved.

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