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The "What was the point of that?" Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by miss kermie, Aug 8, 2012.

  1. miss kermie Well-Known Member

    Any Muppet Muppet moments you thought were absolutely pointless?


    Here's mine: Robin's appearance as the green fairy in IAVMMCM


    Why was he there....?


    Eh.


    What about you guys?
  2. heralde Well-Known Member

    I would ask what was the point of IAVMMCM period but... ;)

    But seriously, probably some of the sketches in the first season of Muppet Show which ended kind of awkwardly, hehe.
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  3. Vincent Liu Well-Known Member

    Just because Moulin Rouge! has green fairies in it.

    I agree, it's pretty random.
  4. Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I would say the same thing about MWO. Why was that movie even made? :p
  5. Vincent Liu Well-Known Member

  6. Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Yeah well it didn't get my $$.
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  7. Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Well, the book is Jim's favorite, so I guess at one stage it did make sense. I just don't understand why it was made with so much darkness. I really enjoy some of the emotional complexity of the relationships between characters though...like the moment that Gonzo helps Fozzie across the bridge. Really nice.

    Take out Ashanti, and you'd have a half good movie...
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  8. CaseytheMuppet Well-Known Member

    I think they could've made that movie much better. Maybe Janice as Dorothy? That would be too much of a "risk to people who don't know character like her." :rolleyes: Ashanti was not a good choice IMO.
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  9. Beauregard Well-Known Member

    As for the Green Fairy reference, I think it was kind-of designed as a "shock moment" for people who know Moulin Rouge who might find it humourous/shocking for the Muppets to make Absenthe-themed-jokes, and/or to have Robin as this character from the movie!

    Here's one: The realistic-style dog from KSY. What was the point of that?
  10. CaseytheMuppet Well-Known Member

    Oh, I hated her. It would have been cool to see someone like Afghan Hound, more Muppet like.
  11. Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Yeah, it wasn't so much the character itself that was annoying, as the fact that her voice and personality didn't match her body-shape and Dog-ness at all. It would have been refreshing, otherwise, to have a new female member of the Muppet cast. I wonder if she was designed to kinda bridge the gap between animals, and Muppets, and with it being a prequel perhaps this was alluding to a mutation angle (X-Menish?) that cause the rise of Muppets in the real world...but they never went anything like that far in detail, so if that was the point...it kinda failed.
  12. Hubert Well-Known Member

    My "What was the point of that?" Quentin Tarantino.

    They obviously needed a human to fit that role, but they could've gotten anyone other than Ashanti and made it a million times better. Not that Ashanti's acting ruined the movie, but that since she's an R&B singer, they revolve half the movie around singing R&B esque songs, even to the point of Dorothy not only wanting to go home, but also becoming a famous singer.

    I feel like at that point, KSY stooped down to an all time low for the Muppets...the dog thing seems like something a cheap movie would do.
  13. Vincent Liu Well-Known Member

    But at least the dog looks quite real. Did the creature shop make it?
  14. Hubert Well-Known Member

    That is my biggest problem. The fact that the dog looks real. Make a fun, dog puppet and add that voice and personality and we'll call it a day. But once it looks real, adding a voice just makes it all so fake.
  15. Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    KSY dont even get me started on that movie. As for MWO my stance still stands I don't like when Muppets role play. :/
  16. Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I don't think we needed a dog period in that movie...they should've at least used this dog :drool:.
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  17. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I have to agree. Why was MOz Made, especially when we had several better scripts and better ideas for telefilms than yet another retelling of a story that's been retold. Say what you will about MFS, at least it took the Muppets out of a storybook plot. MOz brought them back, without a charming script by Jerry Juhl.

    Heh... that was the best part of the movie. I wish he directed it. It would have been much lighter.

    UGH! And how the thing completely ties into American Idol? That explains Fox's mysterious production in the credits. It quite obviously was made to air on Fox, and they wanted the same idiotic programming cross promotions as VMX did. But then Disney bought them out, and they rushed the darn thing... I mean, they didn't need to make a WOZ Muppet project (as TMM had parallels to it anyway...Rainbow Connection and all that), but they certainly didn't need to make it all about being an R&B star.
  18. Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Yep and that's about ALL MFS did. :p
  19. David French Member

    Yiu may as well then say there was "no point" in making specials like "Hey Cinderella" or "The Frog Prince" since it was "yet another retelling of a story already told."
  20. charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    This sketch has puzzled me since I first caught it last week.

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