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This is how out of touch the company is...

Discussion in 'Fantasy Worlds' started by The 11th UrRu, May 7, 2008.

  1. MrsPepper

    MrsPepper Active Member

    The part I don't understand is this: the JHC has taken stuff off YouTube before, so how could a whole movie (that is available for purchase in stores!) have lasted this long? And what would be the reasoning for leaving The Dark Crystal, when both of those old 1960's Wilson's Meats Meeting Films were taken down from YouTube? I went to show them to a friend one day and they were gone. Fans can't see them anywhere else, and I doubt it was harming anybody.

    So the situation doesn't make much sense.
  2. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    A lot of stuff regarding YouTube doesn't make since. It could be because the site is still reeling from the Google buyout, perhaps.
  3. armslength

    armslength New Member

    Henson is aware of stuff on Youtube and as long as it's something not otherwise available tends to take a lax attitude (Karen Falk, when giving presentations will even refer people to youtube with kind of a wink or finger over lips) - but obviously this can vary from person to person since a company is made up of several people which might explain why the Wilsons Meats films were pulled (could also be a case of if someone complains about it, then they have to act on it.)

    (Now mind you that's just Henson Co - couldn't say what Disney or Sesame Workshop's attitudes are)

    Still that doesn't explain why Henson would allow a product that is not only available commercially but also in print and often rereleased in various media to be on YT for so long. I know years back (before the Disney sale), Henson used to actively monitor ebay for possible copyright infringement auctions. I guess since the Disney sale and downsizing of the company, they probably don't have someone actively monitoring things like Ebay (given the number of knockoff Muppet puppets on Ebay lately!) or Youtube but for things like these examples, they really should. Otherwise they probably only take any action if someone alerts them to something and makes a specific complaint.
  4. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Right and by then, it'd be too late and they'd be losing money if people watch one of their movies for free and downloaded via many converter sites.
  5. MrsPepper

    MrsPepper Active Member

    Naw, I seriously doubt that has anything to do with it. That was a long time ago and there have been very few changes to the actual YouTube site. This goes back to Henson. Personally I don't mind; I hate it when they take off stuff you can't see anywhere else.
  6. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    But TDC is commercially available, though! Thus, you can see it by buying in stores!
  7. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    If you want it and don't have it, then buy it. If not, watch it on You Tube. *shrugs*
  8. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    But showcasing a movie that's commercially available loses people money.
  9. JMPrater

    JMPrater Member

    we're still discussing this? why?
  10. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Sake of conversation? :p I don't know. :D
  11. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Well-Known Member

    Yeah but I don't think they're losing that much money, I mean since Disney bought the Muppets, which that alone must've brought in a ton of cash, they've been putting out a ton of stuff of what they still have, such as Dark Crystal, Labyrinth, Fraggle Rock ect, which must be making some pretty good money otherwise their wouldn't so much more stuff not to mention almost all the seasons of Fraggle Rock to own on DVD or buy off Itunes.

    I just think that their really isn't a whole lot of people that are willing to want to wacth a whole movie on youtube, I really do believe most people would rather spend the money to have it on their DVD collection. And since it's not like you can download stuff from youtube anyhow, that maybe, just maybe, will make people want to buy it all the more.
  12. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Actually, you can. There are converters out there, if you know how to use them after you locate them. Vixy is one of the most well known ones and it does the job. I use it on the available episodes of Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego (WitWiCS), because the show hasn't seen a DVD release yet and I want my favorite episodes available for me to watch whenever I want. Now, if The Learning Company or whomever owns the series would put it on DVD (or even back on TV, if that were possible), I wouldn't have to use the YT-Vixy combination as a downloable source, for I would gladly snatch up WitWiCS DVDs if they were available. :)

    That being said...Do it Rockapella! *the WitWiCS theme plays*
  13. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Hey, this thread has only been started a few days ago. It's not like it's had 20 new posts every day for five months.
  14. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Do you actually know that Henson took the Wilson's Meat Meeting Films down, as opposed to Wilsons Meats taking them down?
  15. MrsPepper

    MrsPepper Active Member

    I assumed it was Henson, but it doesn't really matter because they're been back up on YouTube for about a year.
  16. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Like I said, people will find a way to get things back on the 'Net, regardless of who takes them down.
  17. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    dems be da breaks.:smirk:
  18. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    And "de breaks" often suck.
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    This is what bothers me. If something IS commercially available world wide, then it really SHOULD be taken down. But what do they take down instead? Inconsequential 30 second openings, closings, and the occassional "We don't even want to bother releasing it or even airing it" obscurities.

    It's people that load up current movies and TV shows that help to hurt the cause of people who really just want to share rare clips and media that are locked away in the basement of some greedy and/or incompitant copyright holder, too afraid they won't make extreme profits if they actually commercially release them.

    And yes, I do use digital converters, but only for RARE music clips, and only Mp3's.

    You'd think, in this day and age of the internet, if these companies want to compete, they'd have these things commercially avialable themselves (some places do, Thank Frog that SW is one of them). But sadly, a lot of them refuse to even bother, and take it out on people who are stupid enough to post commercial avialaible current movies and TV shows in full clips.
  20. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Agreed. And well said. People need priorities.

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