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Three questions about modern Sesame Street

Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by GeeBee, Feb 3, 2005.

  1. GeeBee New Member

    What do you like and dislike about modern Sesame Street?

    What would you do to make the show better?

    Where do you predict the show will be ten years from now?
  2. mikebennidict New Member

    let's just drop this topic and talk about the old times.
  3. AmazingMumford New Member

    Seriously, I think the show will be MUCH different than it is now, or ever has been. Let's see Sonia Manzanno and Emilio Delgado will be in their 60's, they'll probably still have the Mail it Shop, Matt Vogel will be performing Big Bird full time, Oscar's voice will be replaced so now we will see Big Bird and Oscar together a lot more. Bob might not be alive anymore, Susan and Gordon will be very old, and I think Miles and Gabi will be the focus of the episodes as far as the humans go, and they might even get married and have a baby.
  4. Erine81981 Active Member

    It will change alot. I like your summery AmazingMumford. It seems that something like that will happen.

    Ernie and Bert will finally get alot of screen time.

    Grover, Herry and Cookie will be in alot more sceens

    Elmo and Zoe will start being background characters. (I hope)

    There will be like "Sesame Street going to Walt Disney World" Or something.

    Maybe Kermit will be a guest on one epsiode.
  5. GelflingWaldo New Member

    What would you do to make the show better?

    I really am not that displeased with the moderen Sesame Street. I still love the show, and for the same reasons I did back when I first saw it. But there are three things that I am not happy about and would change if I could.

    1) Elmo's World - Elmo's World is a nice little show, I have nothing against Elmo or Elmo's world except this. It focuses on one character - Elmo - in one place - Elmo's World (some part of an alternet demention not even on Sesame Street). It is long too and eats up a lot of Sesame Street time. I think Elom's World should break off and become it's own 1/2 hour show, focused for young toddlers (a slightly younger audiance than Sesame Street). Allow Sesame Street to get 15 mins back, and allow the focus of Sesame Street to be broader and less Elmo's World focused.

    2) Focused Cast - It seems that the cast of characters on Sesame Street has become focused on 10-20 characters (Big Bird, Oscar, Elmo, Grover, Telly, Count, Cookie, Zoe, Rosita, Snuffy, Bert, Ernie, ect.) I remember as a kid knowing names and faces of over 50 characters and they would show up all the time. About 15 years ago I got a little magazine-like pamphlet (It was for the 20th annivarsary), it was like a Sesame Year Book (just simple pictures of characters with names under them). It was like 8 pages with 15 characters per page (that's almost 150 characters). And I knew and remembered them all! I feel that kids today are not exposed to as huge of a library of characters on a regular basis, as I remembers the show use to have tons of characters always poping in and out (from Sherlock Hemlock, Guy Smiley, Plasido Flamingo Biff, Sully, Forgetfull Jones, Simion Soundman, ect.) There are still lots of muppets that show up but it seems like the show is focused more on a smaller set of characters and there aren't as many secondary or background characters. They still show up from time to time, but not as often or as many as I remember. I'm not saying the current set of characters is bad, or I want to see the old characters from my youth back. But having a bigger and even more diverse set of regular characters seems nice (even if they are new characters). I remember in pre-school that out of the 32 kids in my class, none of us had the same favorite Sesame Street character; now it seems kids' #1 favorites are either Elmo, Zoe, Big Bird, Oscar, Ernie, or Cookie (with some exceptions).

    3) Less new songs - The show seems to not have less new songs as before. And when they do have a "new song" on the show it is usally a remake or cover of an old sesame song. Even the Elmo's World's theme was taken from an exisiting Sesame song. I would like to hear new songs that will become future staples of a Sesame soundtrack.


    That's all I really have against the current Sesame Street. Nothing big, nothing that if it didn't change I would be upset over, but things that if they did change I would be happy to see. Over all I like the modern Sesame Street. And in 10 years I hope to see it still on the air, and still teaching and entertaining people all over the world.
  6. Erine81981 Active Member

    AWSOME!!!! I loved what you said GelflingWaldo. Thats what I would love to see happen in the future.
  7. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'd agree on GeflingWaldo's stance exactly.
    Things I dislike:

    Firstly, as much as I like the character of Elmo, I dislike the idea of Elmo's world being an element of the show. Since it is clearly geared to even younger groups, it would have worked better as a second, supplimentary show. That's the only thing I really think needs to be changed.

    I dislike them not using certain skits. Some Muppet stuff from the late, late 70's, 80's and in some cases, early 90's skits. I think some of them would work fine, without complaint. And I would like to see some certain animated kits used more often. Not the generic series of counting ones (Number Pinball, stuff like that) but rather the indie animator stuff, like Bud Lucky's number songs, Mo Williams's cartoons (not just the Suzie Kabloozie, "Let's see what the judge thinks" one... the full cartoons), Noodle's and Ned, more Sally Crukshank stuff, though some of it is still used, and all the clasic animators that contributed over the years.

    But I agree there's been more focus on main characters, mainly because people passed, people left the show, and newer characters don't stay on the show too long. Remember Lulu? Gone. Elizabeth, and Murray Sparkles, gone. Not that I necessarily like these characters. My point is the newer characters just aren't as good as the older ones, mainly because they don't have any personality. Using old skits would bring back reference to old characters, like Guy Smiley and Don Music... but unless they can either make more perminant characters stick, or find people suitable to continue the roles (like they did with Gladys last year) we're stuck in that sort of focus.
  8. Erine81981 Active Member

    I also agree w/ you too Dr.tooth.
  9. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I can't see why they can't make an Elmo's world show, thus sepperating it from SS giving the 10-15 minutes back. I mean, if money was the issue, they could just used what they have for a season, then add more episodes beyond that.

    I think PBS should be to blaime. I mean... Jay Jay the Airplane, Teletubbies, Boohbah? What the heck is this stuff? Zero quality, quantity money making kid's shows.... can't they just retire them? No one even likes them any more, anyway!
  10. redBoobergurl Well-Known Member

    I agree with you Drtooth. I cannot stand Elmo's World and I actually like Elmo! I think Elmo's World serves a purpose for younger kids, but should be put into a half hour format away from Sesame Street. I think 2-4 year olds really relate to Elmo and would probably love a whole half hour show devoted to him. However, I've seen 5 year olds get up from the t.v. when Elmo's World comes on after spending the rest of Sesame Street transfixed to the t.v. Anyway, I agree about the quality of programming on PBS as well. What happened to shows like Reading Rainbow, Square One and 3-2-1 Contact. I think Rainbow is still on the air, but here in Minnesota we get it at like 6:00 in the morning when some kids aren't even out of bed yet! What is the point of Boobah anyway?
  11. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Boobah is designed to get kids off the couch, jumping and moving..... for the remote! Target had scads of these stupid toys gathering dust even AFTER clearance. Teletubbies hasn't been popular since Jerry Fow-well said what he said about tinky-tinky or whatever his name was. And it wouldn't have been popular if he kept his mouth shut. And Jay Jay... I have no idea what the heck it is or where it came from. But it's reminicent of those other shows that ripped off Thomas the Tank Engine.

    Now, Those are what I cannot stand. Those are the reason SS is the way it is. Those shows are garbage put on the air only for lazy parents to plop their kids in front of the TV. They had to mold SS unfortunately around that, but at least with SS, it still is high quality, compaired to this at least.
  12. Erine81981 Active Member

    Still agreeing w/ you on this subject. If they could either shut them up w/ all this garbage on PBS but whats there to do w/ all the parents around the world who give theses stupid ideas to PBS or whoever give them thoses ideas and all. Just give Elmo his own 30 mintue show and we'll give this subject a shut down. I heard that in other counties they do have an Elmo World own show and all. They need to do it here too. Don't you agree?
  13. Daffyfan2003 Active Member

    Hmmm. In response to the previous posts, I don't know. It's sort of hard to imagine the show without Susan, Gordon or Bob. They were the humans that were on the show the most when I watched it growing up. Also, Maria, Luis and David were on quite a bit as well. As for Carroll Spinney, he said that he would perform Big Bird and Oscar until he is no longer able, so hopefully he'll be around a while. I don't think I'm ready to have Matt perform Big Bird full time yet. I still don't think Big Bird sounds quite right in the Journey to Ernie sgements. Also, they haven't really got a replacement for Oscar. John Tartiagola performed him in the Sesame Street 4D thing, but I guess other than that he was performed by Carroll. I have often wondered what would happen if the humans (Bob, Susan, Gordon, etc.) were no longer able to be on the show. They'd probably have to take out Trash Gordon. I guess they could replace Gordon again if they had to. After all, if Matt Robinson was still playing Gordon when he died they might have done that or wrote his death into the show. I don't know what would happen if Bob McGrath died. I guess he hasn't been on the show quite as much as he used to be so he might just be writen out or maybe they would say that he moved like they did with David. Just a few thoughts I had. I really hope this doesn't happen any time soon. Hopefully, Bob McGrath, Roscoe Orman and the rest of the human cast will be around for a long time.
  14. DTF Member

    Interesting subject. I'm helping a friend write a "Full HOuse: Next Generation" fanfic and we were just discussing what kids' shows were on. We figure it's almost certain thaat there will be an Elmo's World 30-minute show by then - and that the deaths/aging of human characters might meant hat that "becomes" SS. In other words, Big Bird, Bert & Ernie, Oscar, etc. still appear from time to time. Also, there would be SS reruns a la Mr. Rogers Neighborhood now.

    I don't think adding more muppets is a good idea, though, b/c I suspect it was much easier to have plenty of characters that are familiar when there were 100-200 episodes or whatever a year. 26 is the number you'd see in a verally popular sitcom. And, most of those only have 8-10 main ones at the most. If they were to put it back at 100 episodes then you could have many more muppets.
  15. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    What do you like and dislike about modern Sesame Street?

    I like the fact that SS has brought back the classic characters, more Cookie, Grover, Count, Oscar, Big Bird, Ernie, Bert...however, I miss the style of the old sketches. Journey to Ernie, and the new format for educational sketches aren't as creative as they used to be. They are stale and stagnant. I wish they'd bring back the days of old and begin doing fun and funny sketches along with educational sketches. They were great then. Now, it's too formatted and boring, and the kids likely feel the same way.

    What would you do to make the show better?

    Keep the use of the Classic Characters rolling! That is the best thing they've done in a long time! Start doing sketches like they did in the old days, not just about education, but stuff that's also just for plain entertainment. I also liked how the show used to be formatted and was more variety and more 'commercial-like.'

    Where do you predict the show will be ten years from now?

    On PBS.
  16. I would like to see:
    *Far more than 26 episodes
    *More clips, specifically old ones(however, I loved many of the new season 35 clips such as Dr. Feel, Baby Talk, Joe Hundred Guy, and TriangleBob TrianglePants
    *The show switched back to its pre-season 33 format
  17. GeeBee New Member

    Well, since I initiated this thread, I guess I should answer it as well:



    What do I like about modern Sesame Street?

    If I had to say something good about the current show, I guess it's that they have not completely abandoned old characters and old skits.

    What would I do to make the show better?

    Bring back the old format and revive all of the old skits and street scenes, one way or another, either through reruns or DVD.

    Where do I see the show ten years from now?

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