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TMS Season One - alternate order

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by David French, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. David French

    David French Active Member

    I've now watched all 24 episodes of TMS season one again and have come up with an alternate running order that I think makes the backstage plots flow better than the official order.

    Note this is an *alternate* order and I'm not suggesting that it should be officially adopted or anything. I welcome questions/comments and if you disagree with my order, and can come up with a *sensible* argument, I will consider changing my order.

    1. Joel Grey
    2. Harvey Korman
    3. Rita Moreno
    4. Jim Nabors
    5. Ruth Buzzi
    6. Florence Henderson
    7. Paul Williams
    8. Lena Horne
    9. Bruce Forsyth
    10. Juliet Prowse
    11. Connie Stevens
    12. Sandy Duncan
    13. Charles Aznavour
    14. Peter Ustinov
    15. Candice Bergen
    16. Avery Schreiber
    17. Ben Vereen
    18. Phyllis Diller
    19. Twiggy
    20. Vincent Price
    21. Valerie Harper
    22. Ethel Merman
    23. Mummenschanz
    24. Kaye Ballard
     
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  2. Bill Bubble Guy

    Bill Bubble Guy Active Member

    Well I shall watch my DVDs in this order sometime with your thoughts in mind and see what I think.
    It sounds like very interesting speculation.
     
  3. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Here are my thoughts on a good alternate order:

    Rita Moreno
    Joel Grey
    Jim Nabors
    Ben Vereen
    Florence Henderson
    Harvey Korman
    Charles Aznavour
    Mummenshaz
    Paul Williams
    Lena Horne
    Connie Stevens
    Juliet Prowse
    Bruce Forsythe
    Twiggy
    Ruth Buzzi
    Candice Bergen
    Avery Schrieber
    Vincent Price
    Phyllis Diller
    Ethel Merman
    Peter Ustinov
    Sandy Duncan
    Valerie Harper
    Kaye Ballard
     
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  4. Jon

    Jon New Member

    That is an intresting order. For the most part it flows very well indeed.

    My only suggestion would be to move the Harvey Korman episode to a later slot. The reason is the Character devopment in Fozzie enlisting kermit's help seems a little premature in your placement, though i do understand the order based on the need for more Scooterless episodes before his introduction.
     
  5. David French

    David French Active Member

    Actually, the main reason why it's so early in my order is down to the fact that not only was it recorded before Rita Moreno's episode, but also (and perhaps more importantly) because the next topic due to be discussed in the Panel sketch (according to Kermit) is "Is conversation a dying art?"

    It would appear that the production crew "fiddled about" with that first season in terms of the order of sketches and episodes quite a bit. If you didn't have Harvey's episode in that slot, then where would you have it instead?
     
  6. Jon

    Jon New Member

    Hmmm. Good point! So it was taped before Rita? That i did not know!

    Its always a headache trying to make sense of the first season as it was very much done on the fly. lot's of little aspects can really throw you off and spoil the flow. Just off the top of my head- The Muppet likenesses in Ep 1and 2.

    Where would i place episode 10? I was thinkin' after Ruth Buzzi, but that was before you stated your reasons.
     
  7. Vax Novier

    Vax Novier New Member

    Joel Grey
    Rita Moreno
    Florence Henderson
    Jim Nabors
    Charles Aznavour
    Paul Williams
    Ruth Buzzi
    Juliet Prowse
    Connie Stevens

    (And the rest is the same as the production/tapping order)
     
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  8. David French

    David French Active Member

    Looking back at that list 10 years later, I can now reveal that my alternate running order has changed completely and I've now shifted some episodes back because of continuity. This is what the list looks like now:

    1. Joel Grey
    2. Rita Moreno
    3. Jim Nabors
    4. Ruth Buzzi
    5. Florence Henderson
    6. Paul Williams
    7. Harvey Korman
    8. Lena Horne
    9. Bruce Forsyth
    10. Charles Aznavour
    11. Peter Ustinov
    12. Sandy Duncan
    13. Candice Bergen
    14. Avery Schreiber
    15. Ben Vereen
    16. Phyllis Diller
    17. Juliet Prowse
    18. Twiggy
    19. Vincent Price
    20. Valerie Harper
    21. Connie Stevens
    22. Ethel Merman
    23. Kaye Ballard
    24. Mummenschanz
     
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