beaker
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Does it bug anyone else when speaking int he context of the 'Muppets' people seem to only have one thing on their mind: "Nostalgia". Sad sad sad. To me the Muppets are far from nostalgia, so its sad to see that angle get played out. Perhaps thats why I just stick to MC and TP. A lot of other sites are only filled with 'Hey I remember the Muppets when I was a kid...who was that furry blue guy?' or 'Hey, I remember Muppet Babies!'
To me the Muppets are beyond timeless...first, and last, and always...the past, present and future. Now I know theyre on this whole 25th annv kick(which is odd, because the merchandising and PR campaign on Dennys, etc makes it sound like theyre 25 years old...try half a century!) but even without the TMS commenoration most people just think of Muppets as 'yesterdayland'. thats why on other genre forums youll find uninformed comments like 'puppets are old news, its all about cgi'. Obviously theyve never met a Muppet irl.
It just bugs the crud out of me to keep seeing th eMuppets percieved as purely nostalgia...KSY sure doesnt help, but Im hoping the upcoming Fox show finally puts them on the current map. It bothers me simpsons and other sites around genre/sci fi/etc shows that have only been around a decade have countless legions of fans, when JHC related stuff...the company responsible for the show that raised virtually everyone on the face of America and beyond(sesame), the company behind
the once most popular show on tv(TMS), and the company behind effects for some of the biggest films of all time(creature shop) hardly gets any major attention. Perhaps JHC figure of 1000 hardcore fans is right...sad.
Heck, they even removed the JH trademark signature from "Farscape", perhaps so sci fi fans dont think of it as "Muppets in space". A lot of this percieved notion might be due to JHC current *ahem*..."situation" and choices. But goodness,
if they can barely fill a small auditorium in the LA area for a rare con where ya actually can see the stars in person(unlike a lot of Trek and Star Wars cons) what does that say about the state of the modern Muppet fan love?
Im really hoping starting at the beginning of next year, something...something finally rectifies this 'nostalgic' perception. Lets get back to the glory days where the Muppets are percieved as current and hip, and not some "80's nostalgia".
Heres hoping to 2003 finally being the renniassaince of Muppetdom we fans have so long awaited for....and here's to an insane turnout at Muppetfest 2003!
To me the Muppets are beyond timeless...first, and last, and always...the past, present and future. Now I know theyre on this whole 25th annv kick(which is odd, because the merchandising and PR campaign on Dennys, etc makes it sound like theyre 25 years old...try half a century!) but even without the TMS commenoration most people just think of Muppets as 'yesterdayland'. thats why on other genre forums youll find uninformed comments like 'puppets are old news, its all about cgi'. Obviously theyve never met a Muppet irl.
It just bugs the crud out of me to keep seeing th eMuppets percieved as purely nostalgia...KSY sure doesnt help, but Im hoping the upcoming Fox show finally puts them on the current map. It bothers me simpsons and other sites around genre/sci fi/etc shows that have only been around a decade have countless legions of fans, when JHC related stuff...the company responsible for the show that raised virtually everyone on the face of America and beyond(sesame), the company behind
the once most popular show on tv(TMS), and the company behind effects for some of the biggest films of all time(creature shop) hardly gets any major attention. Perhaps JHC figure of 1000 hardcore fans is right...sad.
Heck, they even removed the JH trademark signature from "Farscape", perhaps so sci fi fans dont think of it as "Muppets in space". A lot of this percieved notion might be due to JHC current *ahem*..."situation" and choices. But goodness,
if they can barely fill a small auditorium in the LA area for a rare con where ya actually can see the stars in person(unlike a lot of Trek and Star Wars cons) what does that say about the state of the modern Muppet fan love?
Im really hoping starting at the beginning of next year, something...something finally rectifies this 'nostalgic' perception. Lets get back to the glory days where the Muppets are percieved as current and hip, and not some "80's nostalgia".
Heres hoping to 2003 finally being the renniassaince of Muppetdom we fans have so long awaited for....and here's to an insane turnout at Muppetfest 2003!