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Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, May 12, 2015.

  1. Muppetboy09

    Muppetboy09 Well-Known Member

    I really hope nobody illegally tapes the pilot episode of this show during the showings in the party bus, and if they dare to tape it, I sure hope that it will never show up online. That would be the most awful thing ever!!!
     
  2. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    If it did though I'm sure you and everyone else on here would secretly watch it though.....
     
  3. Muppetboy09

    Muppetboy09 Well-Known Member

    Everything I said was sarcasm, as in I really hope that someone does everything that I mentioned above...
     
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  4. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    The idea that anything (particularly the Muppets) is going to be the "devil" makes me frightened of the person who makes such a statement. :o
     
  5. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    I have to agree with Jamie here. It's a bit of a stretch to create such a straw man. Gee, I hope they don't make them swear (without anything to base it on). One could just as easy say, "Gee, I hope they don't make them ax-murderers" "Gee, I hope they don't make them terrorists". The Muppets aren't just going to change who they are or their character.
     
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  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    If there's one thing that gets on my nerves it's those who complain about how TV isn't as sterile and "wholesome" as it used to be when that level of moral censorship thankfully died out in the mid-60's. And we're talking ruthlessly enforced garbage like not saying Lucy was pregnant and Rob and Laura not being able to share a bed (not that those shows weren't good in spite of that, but they're horrible artifacts if you think about it). We've had swearing and innuendo on television since the mid, late 60's and it grew from there. What I REALLY loved was when MeTV had a commercial showcasing fan mail saying how good, clean and wholesome their shows are... in the middle of the episode of Taxi where Latka had to...erherrherrrm...with another woman to keep from freezing to death. All I can add to that is a Nelson Muntz style "HAW HAW!!!"

    Now, there's the obvious "they get away with too much on television today" argument, and I can agree on the level of how crime dramas slowly turned into Saw. Law and Order: SVU had someone violated with a banana at one point. Yeah, I'd say slowly step back a little from that. And then there's the whole "reality TV is vile" bit that even when a show is being uplifting they manage to go to dark places. But sitcoms, at least the kind on regular broadcast aren't much filthier than they were in the 90's. Maybe a word or two they can say more. Even then, I doubt this Muppet project will be any raunchier than The Middle or The Goldbergs. The show's going to be "adult," but I don't think that Disney would let kid appeal characters get that adult. Certainly nothing along the lines of Puppet Up (which ruined the context of the song "You gotta have faith" in such a delightfully mad way). At worst, Simpsons. Simpsons has some pretty adult stuff in it. Always has. And yet, the show always had marketing to children. From the beginning to recently. Some episodes are even kid friendly and focus on Bart and Lisa.
     
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  7. Ladywarrior

    Ladywarrior Well-Known Member

    Dear Lord. I friggin give up. You people are seriously blowing my statement out of proportion. Just stop.
     
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  8. LaRanaRene

    LaRanaRene Well-Known Member

    ABC should have a marathon of some Muppet Show episodes leading up to the premiere of The Muppets.
     
  9. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Depends on the execution. Janice saying, "the whole joint's gone to ****" is ironically amusing because of her sing songy delivery. But if they just stick in swear words just to shock people with no other thought behind it, I agree with you that it would be awkward and tacky.

    And let me just say your post was fine and you have nothing to apologize for. :)
     
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  10. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    To be fair, in many fans' opinions, they have in the past. Not by cursing or anything, it was more subtle than that. Of course, this has already been discussed in depth over and over, lol.
     
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  11. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    The thing is, in the past Television was able to be edgy, but also retain a bit of class. I do think in recent years, the class part is often forgotten by writers and execs who don't know any better.
     
  12. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    I find it odd that wild assumptions based on no evidence are somehow valid concerns. But this is a fansite after all. That's par for the course. ;)
     
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  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I could go on a debate about the quality of TV writing and the right kind of edginess in TV sitcoms, or I can say I can finally watch a Family oriented sitcom on ABC and not die from complications of diabetes. Or brain hemorrhaging.

    (Seriously, I can't stress enough how Glob awful their 2002 sitcoms were)

    Shows like The Goldbergs, Fresh off the Boat, and Black*ish give me hope for ABC. I'd rather see The Muppets lead off their Tuesday Night line up than Ellen DeGeneres's "I like a dumb game and I'm a producer" series. Sure, that game was cute when it was a 5 minute thing on her talk show (usually before she brought out those annoying Brit Brats), but as a full half hour TV series it just falls flat. It's not even summer replacement quality.
     
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  14. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    Yes, thank you, I really hope they do that, it would be so cool.
     
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  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Airing the movie The Muppets would seem more likely.
     
  16. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Which is why I'm never entirely happy about reboots. They have a tendency to take over.
     
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Thinking that any classic television series can get a mainstream run on a major big three network, no matter what that show is, is idealistic. If the old Muppet show were to run, let's say on MeTV or something that would be a lot more likely. Unless it's a TV special, networks tend to avoid anything made further than a couple of years. Not because they're evil corporations bent on destroying everyone's collective childhoods, but because they aren't obligated to.

    If there was an ABC Muppet retrospective before the show (and there should be), that's one thing. But putting on 30-40 year old television shows? Did CBS even do that with Star Trek when their new movies came out? No. And that has a much bigger fanbase than the Muppets ever did. But did that stop other cable and digital channels from running it? Of course not. I don't see why just the 2011 movie getting a network run isn't enough or less feasible.
     
  18. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    Honestly, I really can not even imagine them airing the movie, just plopping it in its nice slot.
     
  19. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Can't it be both? :insatiable:

    It's fine, I'll just go put my Muppet Show DVDs in instead. This is kinda why Television is dying. ;)
     
  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Joke or no joke, the fact that single viewers feel they're so incredibly entitled to have themselves completely catered to is just...baffling is not a word strong enough. I hate a lot of the crap on television too. It's not that we've never had garbage before, it's just stubborn nostalgia freaks that somehow feel that everything is awful because their show that ended the lifetime of a human ago should be on 24/7. And here's the thing. You answered your own question here:

    If things like that are on DVD, what the heck is the point in putting them on television? Sure, not everyone's going to buy every DVD of their favorite show. But if you can get something uncut and commercial free why even bother tuning into cable/digital channels to watch them? Especially when (and I hate this about reruns) they only show like 2/3s or less of a series, so it's not even complete. That's why old TV reruns are sponsored by life insurance, and tax scam commercials instead of Coke and Tide. Unless there's some head up the butt licensing reason why some series isn't available, most everything is available somewhere.

    Plus... lemme put it this way. Did any major network outside of syndication air I Love Lucy instead of Sandford and Son in the 1970's? No. This whole idea of a conspiracy that the new stuff is going to replace the old stuff is just about the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Unless they're wiping tapes like the BBC used to do, everything old is just fine. It's out there and my only complaint is when companies refuse to make something available.

    But you know. Typical internet. We can't have new things with new characters because they're not as good as the old characters, but don't you dare bring those old characters back because they won't be as good. No one's saying you can't watch the old stuff. But that doesn't mean that the entertainment industry should stop dead cold forever because they "nailed it" with some show made in the 60's. You know how hard it is to get to work on something, even something that sucks, only to hear, "WAAAAA! Some show that's been long cancelled isn't on and it's all the new shows' fault"? I don't wish that on anyone.
     
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