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Discussion in 'Muppet Merchandise' started by Phillip, Feb 22, 2012.
Yeah, I was thinking if iTunes has the bonus features with it i'll buy that one, but I'd rather and actual DVD as apossed to a copy of it on my iPod. Plus iTunes doesn't tell you what the features are before you buy it. So I might just be stuck with the blooper reel, which I could have got on the DVD.
Plus why is there no DVD/Digital Copy release? That one I would buy.
Agreed. Whatever we say now doesn't make a difference, the DVDs/Blu-Rays are being made now, so it ain't being changed
In a thread about all these special features we originally thought were not going to be released you've complained endlessly about how they packaged them. It's kind of like the few people who whined about ticket and concession stand prices when the movie first came out in theaters. It's a legitimate point, but it's a froggin' new Muppet movie made available to us!
The solution? Well a Blu-ray doesn't require a new tv, just a $60 player and if that's too expensive then there's a combo pack with everything in it for $26. That's not outrageous for a single-disc much less an all-in-one 3 disc pack! You might have to view the special features at a friends house or when you can afford a new player, but them's the brakes. I understand the frustration. I'm broke too, but I have no sympathy for any of the griping. None. Life's a happy song!
I'm going to put something in perspective here in a fresh post.
The last time a theatrical Muppet movie debuted on home video it was the VHS-only "Muppets From Space" in the fall of 1999. There's an entire generation between then and now! I'm just happy to see how far the Muppets (and technology) have come. It's thrilling to finally have a new movie out. Everything else is noise that just can't drown out the Muppet songs stuck in my head!
this...i think people (not just muppet fans but people in general) think Blu ray players dont work without an HDTV...you should see my set up...i have a PS3 i got for Christmas and an old Phillips Magnavox 50 pound tv that was given to me...and the Picture looks amazing still....your personal TVS will work fine with Blu Ray players trust me i know..and yes the blu ray does bring up the quality even on older tvs... shocking i know
also i want to say something...not as a complaint but as a little tid bit thats been bugging me....i know a few members who actually have been posting here about the complaints of blu ray who actually do own blu rays and a blu ray player but only seem to complain only so they are liked...i wont name names or point fingers but you know you who are...theres no need for the lying
endlessly? what are you talking about? I expressed my feedlings of how stupid it was to be selling a dvd with nothing on it for 3 dollars less. You questioned me, i explained further and let it drop. If you even read my last post here I acknowlege my share of complaining. But All I want is to agree to disagree and let it drop.
And I am very much aware blu ray players work on regular tvs. But to enjoy a blu ray to its fullest potential you need a high def tv. And as i stated countless times, it makes little sense to watch a blu ray in standard def when a cheaper dvd gives the same quality picture.
do I need to remind everyone i have a ps3?
this the last time i am posting here. I wanted to defend myself and let the whole thing drop. This is just getting out of hand.
edit: i missed that last part of frogpuppeteers post and I have a feeling you are refering to me. No, I am not complaining because I want to be liked. I am complaining because I am genuinly frustrated with the state of the media these days shoving blu ray down your throat.
no worries Floyed...i actually wasnt talking about you...i know you have a PS3 and your concerns arnt about it being on DVD or Blu Ray but like you said the ridciculous price of some things i still cant beleive the Transformers 3 blue ray combo is 50 bucks...i mean really...is it that much more exclusive that normal..i personally only own 2 blu rays...didnt pay more then 25 for both
Oh thats a relief. I have no problem paying 25 or even 30 for a blu ray...its that alarming price when you see certain ones for 40 or 50.
in regaurds to the muppets, Its not the price. I will gladly pay the 25 dollars. Its the fact I dont like feeling like I am being pushed into buying something becuase of that carrot dangling in front of me.
perhaps I am partially at fault for failure to explain myself properly
They should have created a two disc DVD, but that's called marketing.
I agree that it makes little sense to view high res media on a low res monitor now, but in retrospect it will make even less sense to buy lower res old technology that's nearly the same price when everything is moving to hi-res. It saves having to double-dip later. It's the wiser choice even though Disney did kind of make it for you. And you have a PS3? Lucky!!! Glass half-full.
That is my only complaint. I honestly don't care if they were throwing blu-ray players at a parade for free like candy, it's just very weaselly to put special features just on the premium edition. Marketting is the only reason, and clearly some back alley antics with Sony.
But my question is, if Disney wanted to put as little care as possible into the standard release DVD, why then even release a standard edition? There's clearly an upsell with the special features trying to get you to buy a soon to be a 70 dollar door stop (the digital download is a scant few years away... that's why FYE's are closing down in droves). Why not just sell a double disk blu/standard combo pack? I was at Target the other day and saw some Lego Star Wars movie that comes ONLY in a combo edition... but even then, according to the package, the special features are on BOTH DVD's. Disney COULD have and SHOULD have done that, leaving special interactive features that work for Blu-ray as the incentives.
Even if I had a player, I'd feel that Disney is looking for the premium home theater set rather than the budget conscious fan. I will buy the combo pack, sure... but I'm more likely to get the crappy standard version as a gift. THAT'S what I'm ticked about.
So is a DVD player. Personally, I don't trust digital downloads for my favorite movies. I want them available in a hard copy version. But it is very true that Disney and Sony have some sweetheart deals. Disney was one of the first studios to back Blu-ray against the inferior HDDVD in the format wars. I'm just sick of the whining! I've been a fan for years and this is a FANTASTIC TIME for the Muppets! I'm all for spirited debates and fan nit-picking. That's what forums are for, but most of these posts are disproportionately negative. I'm on the edge of taking another sabbatical from the forums. There's enough positive Muppety goodness elsewhere.
A good example of Positive Muppety Goodness elswhere is the Muppet Mindset (for those who don't know about it)! Ryan Dosier runs a great site!
Yes it is!!!
Yes! MC has turned into "the drama/whining" forums!
Yeah I see what ya did their Disney.
Well I refuse to buy a blu ray player just to get a movie. I rather save my cash to get Being Elmo when its officially out, a much more entertaining Muppet film I feel.
Disney is just trying to confuse families and fans with their stupid "multiple releases".
Im not even willing to download it and waste the 10 cent dvdr at this point, as I wasnt even too big of a fan of the movie. Ill just wait til someone puts up the deleted and bonus features on youtube
LOL@ "Digital Download". Whoopee! And yeah, Beauty and the Beast: PERFECT EXAMPLE of how Disney is deciding to aggressively push out dvd fans this year, when they are capable of releasing solid dvd releases.
Besides best muppet film of the year is Being Elmo, an amazing and touching movie that I cant wait to purchase.
Look, we get it, you're not happy that the features are on Blu-ray, you hate Blu-ray in general, and you didn't like the movie. But please, please stop posting things like this and taking away from other fans enjoyment of the movie and excitement for the bonus features. What you're doing isn't helping anyone but yourself. I'm not saying that your opinions are in any way invalid--I understand and sympathize--but you are preaching to the wrong choir and you're keeping people from being excited about new Muppet content... which is wrong.
It appears that the iTunes Extra version of the movie will have the blooper reel and the making-of.
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