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Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by TheMonsterAteMe, Nov 5, 2010.
If there is any doubt anyone has that this film is going to happen, Walter came and blew it sky high. YAHHHHOOOOO!
Looks interesting and a great picture. Kermit looks a little odd, like he's floating behind Fozzies leg?
Great to see all the other characters looking so good.
Cant believe we have got to wait over a year til we get to see this.
Perhaps he is sitting on a little platform attached to the table?
First image from the new Muppet movie
Hey Folks, chances are that members of this forum being who we are will get as equally excited as I did to see the following photo...
Dude! Rowlf! ROWLF!
But ah... where are the penguins?
Walter is by far the most generic looking Muppet ever, perhaps bordering on looking out of a Henson influenced kid's show...however, given the geniuses writing this I think that may be the point. He's suppose to be plain looking as can be... I have no doubt it will be his personality and drive that will shine
But this premise kind of blows my mind, and definitely begs three important questions:
1. Can we throw all Muppet canon out the window, if the plot of this movie are two fans of the Muppets trying to help them? Tough pigs is right, this is a very meta, if not meta-meta plot. (Ok, Adaptation by Spike Jonze was meta-meta) This idea is so freaking genius, and I can only imagine how trippy and odd(in a good way) it will be for the Muppets past accomplishments and productions to be acknowledged in their own film without breaking any forth walls But this whole premise is intriguing(treating the muppets like in the real world and acknowledging their wide body of work)
2. Given fans have complained when Kermit and the gang wasnt at the forefront of a movie(like MFS), how does everyone feel that the main stars and focus so far seems like it will be Jason, Amy and this new guy Walter? Will the posters be those three featured prominently with photoshopped stock Muppets way in the background?
3. If Jason is a real human, and Walter is a puppet "human"...do the Muppets know they are puppets, as they sometimes comment "don't look down" or have in the past remarked about Jim Henson. Or do we just accept the Muppets themselves are their own species we accept in the canon of both film and real life appearances? Ive not seen one modern talk show with the Muppets that didnt treat them as being real actors and going to great lengths to obscure their performers to maintain the illusion.
I always felt it cheap when stuff like Greg the Bunny referred to themselves as "puppets". In the film Garfield, people didnt say "oh look, its a computer generated cat talking to us"
Man, I am sooo loving this spread...even if Gonzo's new eyes still throw me off
Greg the Bunny was a completely different concept, a sitcom on Fox, not associated with the Muppets whatsoever.
On Greg the Bunny, "puppets" were considered a real species. Living, breathing individuals not controlled by anyone.
I think that its safe to say that in this upcoming movie, the Muppets are real beings.
That is, Kermit is a real frog, Fozzie is a real bear, and so on, same as they have always been.
Despite the little in-joke of "don't look down" and such, in general the Muppets have always been considered real living, breathing, individuals. They are not puppets, they are real, and have occasionally been recognized as celebrities. Like in "VMMCM"
And I'm sure that they will no doubt continue that.
Out of curiosity do you feel the same way about the cartoon characters in Who Framed Roger Rabbit calling themselves "toons"?
In the article it says that Walter is like one of the Muppets and wants to join them because he doesn't know anyone else like him (I wonder how his family looks). Given that I wonder if the Muppet Wiki article on him should categorize him under "Muppet Characters".
Of course if Walter is going to have a celebrity voice I guess he won't be used afterwards (unless maybe as a recycled puppet).
That's what I think too.
Looks like they're going with the "chunkier" Piggy (is that the right word?), and it looks like they've rounded out Fozzie's face a bit, and in this picture, he looks just like a Nanco plush I have of him, which could be a good or bad thing...
So exciting, either way!
Anyone else notice no Pepe?
Well, lets be honest here,
Poser puppets were used for that picture, which do not always portray the characters in the most flattering light.
The puppets used for the filming will not necessarily look exactly like the posers in that picture.
Still, very nice photo!
Although, I do have my doubts about this Walter fellow. Could be an interesting character. We shall see.
Overall though, there is something about this pic that captures the tone of the original show and movies that haven't seen in a while. Bravo.
2011...MERRY CHRISTMAS TO US!
Which worries me, as I have not heard of any mention of him in the original script. I cant imagine a Muppet film without him being one of the main characters
Oh I consider Roger Rabbit nothing short of visionary, and even having recently seen it I am absolutely blown away by it...and am sad the 1998 sequel got shut down. Toons being toons works within that canon, though truth be told given the way legal stuff goes I can't imagine a film like that being made now.
If he ever got recycled, it'd probably be on Stuffed and Unstrung(where all former Muppet stars go! ...I kid)
Oh I know, I was just referring to how Walter is a human but also a Muppet. I know Henson Alternative has played around with the idea of puppets as standins for humans without making a distinction(like the Del Castle character)
Hey Ive seen Muppets in person performed by their signature performer and the illusion works wonders. The "dont look down" bit is primarily only used in "secrets of the Muppets" type specials. I consider Muppets to be its own species, though it'd take some interesting fan fiction to figure out how that is.
But ultimately I view the Muppets as all actors, so that nothing is really canon.
Oh definitely, in fact it looks right out of Muppet Magazine from the 80's. Total classic and a clear homage to the 'good ol days'
My ONLY complaint thus far is the date. Though I also realize they are thinking that a summer date might not fare as well, as traditionally that is a very risky time for certain films and their appeal.
i am beyond excited about this movie. i'm still in shock that it's ACTUALLY happening for real
The Muppets have a history of recasts or alternate performers, so I dont see that a problem.
A newly sculpted Miss Piggy will make her "debut" in this Movie.Hard to tell if this is the new puppet or poser.Guess we need to see her front on.
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