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Weekly Box Office & Film Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by jvcarroll, May 20, 2012.

  1. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I just saw Brave. I can't really articulate thoughts on it. However, SPOILERS, I was glad the little boys "bear" thing wasn't the punchline of the story. I saw clips of it in the previews and they didn't appear until quite late, so I thought it would end up being a "Here we go again!" deal. Thank goodness it wasn't. PIXAR should be above that.

    That short film was adorable too. However, this abomination appeared in the trailers:

    Seriously? "Marketing VISIONARY BEHIND TELETUBIES?" The fact that you had to make up words ("Adventurific") to make the character's personalities? And poor, poor, poor Chloris Leachmen and Christopher Lloyd.
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  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Remember how I was talking about how the Disney Store merchandise was huge spoilers?

    They had a 3 brothers/3 bears "transformation" set. I don't think they even attempted to keep that gag half as secret as they did the whole mother turns into a bear bit... even though they had enough merchandise of that too. But no transformation sets, so it could have come off that there was a bear queen of any sort.

    The only time an R rated film beat a family film during the first 2 weeks was last year's Hangover 2 over Kung Fu Panda 2... and that's because the first Hangover had such a response. Everyone I know who saw it regretted it, though.

    Brave's destined to speak to tweenage/teenage outsider type girls, and it will find a loyal audience with them. I'm not sure about repeat showings (I don't know anyone who willfully brings the family to the same film the very next week. It could get some repeat business later on... but it's got one good more weekend before Spider-Man.

    So I gave my 5 bucks to Ted yesterday, and I quite enjoyed it. It does have a lot of Family Guy humor (even adding a character that has "been living in the United States almost long enough to sound American")... but it's surprisingly sweet as a film as well. It is just over what you'd expect... I'm glad I saw it.
  3. ToonGeek

    ToonGeek Well-Known Member

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  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    This is going to be its own thread... RIGHT now. There's TOO much to complain about for this thread.
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  5. Bannanasketch

    Bannanasketch Well-Known Member

    I don't know if I should make a new thread for this or not, so I'll just post it here. Anybody ever go to Drive-in theaters anymore? There's a couple near me that I'm considering going to this summer but I was wondering if any of you ever go anymore.
  6. Hayley B

    Hayley B Well-Known Member

    I just watched Lilo and Stitch last night. It is just so different from alot of the Disney movies.
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It all depends on how Saturday and Sunday go. Kids are probably out of school by now, but the Weekend is when Family movies do their best.
  8. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    Runaway Box Office

    I have to amend my prediction. Brave might not even place 3rd! The Tyler Perry movie is biting at its heels with just over $10M. My weekend estimates for Ted and Magic Mike that came true in just one day. They made 20.2 and 19.4 respectively. Boy have movie trends changed! I was originally thinking they could take the weekend, but who would have expected these figures?

    New Estimates:
    Ted: $55M
    Magic Mike: $48M
    Brave: $30M
    Medea: $29M
    Madagascar 3: $12M

    Spider-Man Can

    The new Spidey comes out Tuesday so that it can get a jump on Wednesday's holiday. Before people post gripes about why they rebooted this franchise, let me briefly explain.
    1. Spider-Man's film rights are held by Sony, but they need to keep the projects rolling out every 5 years or the rights will revert back to Marvel/Disney. What company in their right mind would give up such an international cash cow?
    2. The actors' salaries were getting ridiculous. Toby Maguire was set to make $50M for the sequel. Kirstin Dunst would likely have taken in close to $20M and then there's the director and other stars who would have all likely gotten money off the profits too. The picture would have already cost close to $100M just to get everybody to show up and another $220 for special effects. They could easily start anew and sign lesser-known actors to multi-picture deals. Makes sense.
    3. Raimi's films painted Spider-Man into a creative corner. The key villain storylines were mostly wasted and the love interests no longer mirrored anything in the comics. A new take offers a fresh start and limitless options.
    Sony's motives are purely cynical and financially based, yet they hired a creative team that reportedly transcends them so I'll give Spidey a chance. It has the makings for a much more satisfying series if played right. I predict it will take in over $300M in its first week and it's on track to be the third highest grossing film of the summer. I still think Avengers will beat the Dark Knight this time out.
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It's not that I have any problems with Sony's handling of the Spidey franchise at all... but I really wish that Fox's X-men rights would be reverted to Disney/Marvel. If nothing else, that would free up rights to get Wolverine into the Avengers. As it stands, Ant Man wasn't in the movie because of some solo project that may or may not get made. I don't think it makes too much a difference, but the second one should have some other heroes added to the group. Too bad they can't cross pollinate and allow for cameos of other Marvel Heroes.

    Dark Knight will be a strong franchise film, but the lack of real interest comes from their choice of villain. In the entire rouge's gallery of Batman villains, they picked a heck of a character. But due to circumstances beyond their control, they couldn't get The Riddler into the film. They wanted Leo Decaprio to play him, and something went down and they couldn't. The story is going to have to outshine the lack of major name characters (Catwoman is clearly just going to be in the beginning stage in the film, and rise to become a major villain at the end of the film). Especially since the rumors around who it was going to be are stronger than the concept of Bane.

    It is a shame they killed off Two-Face in the second. I would have had him rise to power as a major figure in the underworld, and be a menace in this one. Sort of like how Scarecrow appeared in the last one as a petty drug dealer... just a short sequence with him in it.
  10. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    Early estimates are in. We won't know the final figures until Monday.

    Ted - $54,100,000
    Magic Mike - $39,155,000
    Brave - $34,011,000
    Tyler Perry's Madea's Witness Protection - $26,350,000
    Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted - $11,815,000

    Rated R movies have certainly done well this weekend.
  11. CaseytheMuppet

    CaseytheMuppet Well-Known Member

    Yay, another Telutubbies spin-off! :rolleyes:
  12. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    The new Spider-Man has heart, humor, grit and great chemistry from its leading stars. It also has a sluggish first act filled with flashbacks that add very little to the story in this film. It sets the stage for some truly amazing sequels. This one seemed to have the bland studio hand in it a little more than it should. This gets a solid B from me.
  13. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I would have accepted it a lot more if it didn't have such an annoying and TOTALLY unrealistic villain. I agree though, it could have amazing sequels!
  14. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    The Lizard is a popular, classic Spider-Man villain that was set up in Raimi's trilogy but was never used. A lot of Spidey's villains are kind of spectacular. I had no problem with him except the facial design and haphazard character development. Dr Connors was supposed to have more of a mentor connection to Peter Parker. I feel they wasted too much time on other elements in the beginning of the film. I also feel that the director called upon a few too many of Raimi's cinematic strategies.
  15. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Well, yes, I knew that, but for me it was the way that the Lizardness randomly wore off that wasn't really explained and seemed a bit of a plot-hole. And I guess I just couldn't take him seriously as a threat at any point. And, as usual, he went from zero-crazy in about three scenes time...surely people don't start wanting to teraform a city before they have even figured out their own personal motivations.
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I didn't see it yet, but the fact they're starting the movie off with that sort of reminds me of the Spectacular Spider-Man series. That's the villain they started the show with too.

    I'm glad we're getting a character that wasn't used before in film form. It's a shame they couldn't do that with the third Batman film.
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    To the surprise of no one.

    That's ridiculously strong right there. I can't wait to see it go head to head with Batman in 2 weeks. Avengers was lucky that all of its competition was weak (I'm disappointed MIB 3 fell so fast, though), but those are 2 of the strongest blockbusters of the summer being released within 2 weeks of each other. And even though Batman doesn't have a stronger rogue's gallery this time out (all the more a shame it's the last one), he still has a furious fanbase of rabid Batfans. That's going to be interesting.

    Oh... and Magic Mike fell to five. I guess it's done it's Mommy Porn business.
  18. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    I haven't seen Brave, but it just looks the same as all these other stupid Disney stuff.
    These things are all the same...the adults and the boys are stupid and the girls are the very smart ones and fast ones. All those Disney channel shows are exaclty the same.
    Now, we have Brave to join them. I haven't seen a normal male character in any of the trailers or posters or clips or anything for Brave. And I doubt there are any in the movie.
    I feel Pixar was forced to do this movie, they could've done WAAY much better.
  19. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Wow...I dont know where to begin with that. You can't seriously be lumping all disney movies in with whats on the channel. I have not seen Brave, and I probably won't, but you can't accuse it of being the same as the shows if you have yet to actually see it. And how do you define "normal?" Brave handsome dude who falls for the girl and everything ends in a kiss? Remember, they are trying to market the movie for girls. Not boys.

    Also...a short list of smart boys on Disney Channel: Cody Martin (Suite Life), Phineas, Ferb, Baljeet (Phineas and Ferb), Dipper (Gravity Falls), Justin (Wizards of Waverly Place), Kick (Kick Buttowski)

  20. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    I get what you are saying there... Is there a normal male character, a smart one at least? No, I didn't think so. And I know that they are marketing it for girls, which is why I am saying the above.
    All these Disney things that are directed to girls are all exactly the same. Every single one of them. And I hate the fact that this new Pixar movie is directed only to a single gender, they never had that in the past. Like I said, they were really forced to do this movie.

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