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West Nile, Swine Flu, Meningitis, and Sequelitis

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by D'Snowth, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. Flaky Pudding

    Flaky Pudding Well-Known Member

    When Avatar 2 does come out, I hope it's nothing like the Robot Chicken parody. That was SO awkward especially the creepy-looking blue monkey singing in a weird tone as the Na'Vi were..........well let's just say "making love" because this is a family forum.
     
  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    It wasn't ROBOT CHICKEN, but I know there was an animated sex scene parody of AVATAR on YouTube at one point where they apparently use pony tails instead of "soup drinkers."

    But, ehh, I hated the first one, so I wasn't too pleased to hear James Cameron saying there was going to be a second and third one - but more than that, I was miffed that, at the time, he was suddenly appointed god of filmmaking, so he was all, "Yeah, so because I'm now top dawg, I hereby decree that all future movies in Hollywood be exclusively 3D." Because, y'know, that was back when 3D was the big moviegoing gimmick at the time.
     
  3. Flaky Pudding

    Flaky Pudding Well-Known Member

    This is the one I was talking about:
    WARNING! PG-13: Do not watch if your under 13.
     
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  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'd be more surprised he's actually following through. This is his Chinese Democracy. Maybe once this thing gets released they'll also give everyone a free Dr. Pepper coupon. Heck, by the time this gets released we deserve a freaking free Crystal Pepsi.

    The problem with Avatar is that it's a movie that did great at the box office, but somehow was completely forgotten as soon as the film hit home video. It's like it didn't make a big enough cultural impact, no matter how much money it made. Films that flop in their initial release and then get vindicated by reruns have more of an impact. How many Labyrinth parodies have we seen in cartoons recently? Like 3 or 4 and one well known case of an almost? Labyrinth may have bombed, but it's better remembered than a recentish box office smash. It's like, does anyone care if he actually makes the second and third film?
     
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  5. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Do we really NEED another Avatar movie? Honestly I hated the first one. Sure it was pretty, but what the movie had going for it in visuals it lacked in...well...everything else. I thought the overall plot and characters were just really boring and uninteresting (Ferngully did it better, and I didn't really like Ferngully either).

    It was pretty, that's about it.
     
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  6. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

     
  7. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Yes, we still need another "Incredibles" movie, which we're getting in two years. But that's the only upcoming sequel I can think of that I actually want.
     
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  8. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I'll go along with that. But we definitely, definitely do not need a TOY STORY 4, after 3 already wrapped up the story beautifully; Pixar has lost its credibility for this one.
     
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  9. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    I'll give them the benefit of a doubt and say maybe they wanted to make a TV special for Valentine's Day, but they needed a longer run time, so they chose to make a theatrical film. Plus, Pixar says this will not be an actual TS4 so much as a standalone film, so that's a little more reassuring to me.
     
  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Pixar movie sequels have me mixed. I don't think there was certainly any bad one, and most of the ones they've done so far were ones Disney threatened to do without them if they left. And better yet, the Pixar sequels were far better than the DTV stuff Disney proposed. Monsters University may not have been better than the original, but was used to expand their universe, flesh out the characters more, and to not hurt the heartwarming ending of the original film. The Disney Circle 7 (or 9 or whatever) movie was basically Monsters Inc, but with the roles reversed, and them running around a panicking human world. Toy Story 3 would have been about Buzz being recalled and the unfunny broken toys he'd meet on the way. And I'd assume Finding Nemo 2 would have been "AHHH! Nemo somehow got lost again" instead of expanding Dory's character.

    And let us not forget one thing. Pixar has the lower original movies to sequel ratio of most CGI cartoon studios. Sure, their first sequel (Toy Story 2) followed the original with one movie (Bug's Life) in between. And that was pressure from Disney to make a cheap, throwaway DTV title. Instead they treated it like a movie instead of a cash grab, and we got something special. The only other time a sequel followed the other film that closely was Cars 2, but that was a kid's movie anyway. Pixar's allowed to not make a movie that's an emotional roller coaster once in a while. Though Cars 3 has a pliotline to be proud of, unlike the Saturday morning animated series tie in story they used.

    Toy Story 4 has me... conflicted isn't even the word. I'd agree it would probably work better as a TV special, and I really think Pixar should be doing more of those and with more characters besides Toy Story. I'm willing to have an open mind about it, even though the movies closed nicely with 3 and the supplemental specials and shorts are more than good enough for the characters.

    That said, I think Pixar owes us a Monsters Inc special. Halloween's too on the nose, though.
     
  11. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Oooh, yes! I can't believe this hasn't happened yet.
    The thing that bothers me the most besides them not needing another movie after the amazing third one is, well... Usually when Pixar has an idea for a movie, it starts with an idea. Long story short, if the idea is good enough and lasts long enough to work even after major changes, it becomes a movie. With Pixar it was always about making the best movie they could that starts with a creative idea. But with Pixar's sequels it seems to be the exact opposite; Instead of waiting until the best idea comes up for a sequel, they say, hey we can get money off this, so now that we've announced it and money has already been invested, now we need to find a reason to justify this sequel happening. Sometimes they don't even have enough time to fully flesh out the script and give it all the time the production needs. So the result is often a film that is less creative and less fun then it's predecessor.
     
  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'd say that's more the case with their competitors. I really think that with Monsters Inc especially, it was them knowing Disney was going to make a series of cheapquels and they thought "Did someone ask for a challenge!?!?!" And I give them credit for giving most of their sequels a good, long time in between. Other than TS2 and Cars 2, it's not like they're directly followed a couple years later. Finding Dory was well over a decade since the original, ditto Monsters U and TS3. Then of course, they get equal crap for their other original films not being as good as the preceding either. It's like they're only allowed to make one kind of film, and then they get crap for them being formulaic. Just like Disney and the Princess films. They got crap for making them, then they got crap for doing things different.

    Meanwhile, 5 Freaking Ice Age movies that get increasingly cartoony, some withing a couple years of each other. And a Rio sequel that I can't rightfully say no one wanted, but it was generally poorly received. Honestly, the first one was incredibly overrated and not really that good either. I can honestly see Disney pressuring Pixar to make more sequels, and it looks like it's the case when it isn't. I'd say by comparison Dreamworks is in and out of that sort of thing. I can't say they had a really bad sequel outside of Shrek 3 being repetitive and redundant. Sure, KFP2 was better than the third one, and I kinda blame the fact it had a TV show in between, making the villain conflict look like an extended episode, but still having that touching stuff in the middle about his lost Panda civilization. But then you look at some of their original films made since, and while nothing really looked that bad (the jury's out on Trolls, but even compared to what they were originally going to do, not as awful), they just seemed ...strange. Turbo seemed like a huge step backwards for them, Trolls too. It's unfair for both studios to be compared by their best films, as they're either going to not be as good or fall short, and exceptions beyond that are, at best, very high and basically just met.
     
  13. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    I recently watched Illumination's Sing, and I found it way more enjoyable than I thought, mainly for the colorful ensemble of characters. But now that a sequel was greenlit, how will that work out? Hopefully the writers will be smart enough not to make it a retread (oh no, the theater is getting repossessed again and Buster & his singing troupe need to save it again! :rolleyes:). Maybe they could focus on the Seth MacFarlane-voiced jerk@$$ mouse and his girlfriend on the lam from the Russian bear gangsters?
    They definitely sequel-hooked us there if you watch it yourself.

    And in unrelated news, after also having watched the fantastic Porco Rosso, Hayao Miyazaki wanted to make a sequel to that at one point, set during the Spanish Civil War with an aged Porco. But since Studio Ghibli is on hiatus and Miyazaki is no longer with the company, that's been put on hold.

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2011/jul/07/first-sight-hiromasa-yonebayashi
     
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  14. Flaky Pudding

    Flaky Pudding Well-Known Member

    Another freaking Alpha and Omega movie!? Do those filmmakers want to make our brains melt or something?
    [​IMG]We have to make another Alpha and Omega you foolsssss, now follow my ordersssss! Mwahahaha!
     
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  15. muppetgem

    muppetgem Well-Known Member

    If there's one thing they wanna make, it's cash. Like I said in that one thread, I bet Mr. Krabs is running all these film companies! It seems like all they care about is making money, and nothing else.
     
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  16. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    These are like the Land Before Time sequels of the 21st century.

    I wonder if even A&O fans still like the endless sequels?
     
  17. muppetgem

    muppetgem Well-Known Member

    Of course they like them, wolfaboos will love anything that has to do with wolves. BTW, if you didn't know, a wolfaboo is someone who has a crazy obsession with wolves.
     
  18. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Mother of pearl. . . . :rolleyes:
     
  19. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    I really hope they just focus on a smaller group of characters. If there was one glaring problem in the first one, it's that they had too many subplots and not enough time to develop them. I feel like if they had given us more time to feel invested in the cast, then the movie would've been 5x better.
    But hey, at least the animation was really nice, and I can only imagine it would improve if they make sequel.
     
  20. 1000 Eyes

    1000 Eyes Well-Known Member

    Going by the thread title I thought this thread was about disease. :p

    Lemme just say that I for one am looking forward to Cars 3. It's a franchise my family has loved since the first film came out. I can see why people dislike it, but personally I'd all it Pixar's hidden gem. Great morals, engaging storylines, really cool characters. I like it. Can't wait for the third one.
     
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