I believe they had both since August. I just haven't been able to pick either up. A can agree and disagree with you on that. Henson didn't do much with Muppet babies since the show, with the exception of Merchandise and computer software. But then again, Henson didn't make other "Babies" to use in its stead. But then again, it took them forever to get their regular muppets up and running, and even then, everything had a 3+ year gap in between it. I'm just saying, Disney hasn't really done anything big with the Muppets, and Muppet babies falls into that category. Plus, if they want to go the "baby themed" merchandising route, why have Baby Pooh and Princesses? Mickey, fine. But Pooh defies logic.