First off, I am still wondering why there is no general Muppet discussion section...not general off topic or classic Muppets, but a section devoted to current or not current Muppet related discussions? This question has always been at the center of everything, now more than ever. What defines a Muppet? For years I was so used to seeing fine print under video tapes and books that said "featuring Jim Henson's Sesame Street Muppets" or "featuring Jim Henson's Fraggle Rock Muppets". But ever since EMTV sold off Sesame, and now that the four major franchises are all split up, I guess it is now only in our hearts what defines it all. Muppet Show universe(thats what I consider everything thats not creature shop, fraggle, sesame, or bear...) and Bear in the Big Blue House are now Disney...Sesame Street is now Sesame Workshop, and all JHC has left is Fraggle Rock(as well as assorted odds and ends) To me tho and most fans, these four franchises will forever be Jim Henson's Muppets...no matter what canon or company they belong to. Heck, the Sesame gang who was on Dr Phil yesterday were referred to as Muppets...everyone in the world will always refer to Sesame and Fraggle as Muppets(so nyahhh to you Disney lawyers) Disney: You may have bought the "Muppet" trademark and brand, but you didnt buy the sole exlcusive meaning. What do you guys think? I would hope, that in 2005...ALL Muppet species would be able to come together for one big celebration. If Disney truly does care and respect JH' legacy, they will KEEP his signature, and acklowlege and celebrate *ALL* Muppets.