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What would it take....

Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by Redsonga, Sep 18, 2008.

  1. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    ..to make Big Bird the main character of SS again? Weather or not it is realistic aside for the moment, what do you think would have to be done to make it happen? :wisdom:
    And for that matter if it did happen but his actor were to die one day (heaven forbid) who would SS get to play him? It is not like Forgetful were he was not a main character so they could just drop him like he was never made IMHO, even now Big Bird is at the very least the common backbone of SS, no matter who has the spotlight...

    Hmm..maybe I'm thinking too much but these questions have been running though my head for a while:o...
  2. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    I do not think that they could just drop forgetful He had too much of an impact of the show and I think without his preform it is a tough thing to do.
  3. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Simply put, one who could perform Carroll's characters well, just as Eric has done with Frank's & Steve has done with Jim's.
  4. mikebennidict

    mikebennidict New Member

    Why don't we worry about that when the time comes? Plus you mean muppetteer, not actor.


    As for BB being a main character, why does it even matter? The audience doesn't mind.
    As far as I'm concerned, BB never was a main character.

    I joined MC to talk about SS past and not even to concern myself with present day SS so why not do the same thing and stop complaining about the way SS is now? The show is not for us.
  5. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    Because it is something worthwhile to talk about. You don't have to if you don't want to :sympathy:


    It matters. And the only reason they don't mind one way or another is becuase they were not around in the past, and if what they see when they are little shapes their tastes to begin with why not Big Bird? He still has many things to teach...
    *lol* You must have not watched much SS in the 80's then :coy:

    Because, I am sorry, but I am not you. I have many different reasons for joining but just talking about the past and never questioning or wondering about the future are not one of them :halo:
    I was not complaining. I was only asking what if BB was the main character again (which he was, very much so) and if they set their sights on making him such again what would have to be done to do so? Very simple, not at all a complaint.

    No, but it is for my future baby someday and as such I feel more than entitled to question the future of SS even if nothing should come of my wondering but a new discussion on a forum^.^.
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The writers need to make more Big Bird stories.

    That is all.

    We already HAVE a recast for Big Bird anyway (Matt Vogel)... it's not like there's anything stopping that. it's all about the writers at this point.
  7. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    I guess it is like everything else on tv, the writers are ether good and there or there but so-so. Good enough to get good ratings but not really do anything that makes you really stop and take notice or change anything...I'm not saying todays SS is like that at all, but its stories could always be even better :excited:
  8. muppet baby

    muppet baby Active Member

    yes you are right it is here for our feauter babies someday , it is a wonderful show and we should be concerned if we thought that it needed some work somewhere and yes i truly belive that they need to make more stories for big bird .
    He is a wonderful part of the show and in my opoion one of th main ones .

    They really need to make a more stories for him .

    i sure hope that they do
  9. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Indeed. The Street without Big Bird (who was a main character, considering he was the one to get movies & specials [ex: Follow That Bird] before Elmo's rise in fame) would be The Muppets without Rowlf & Scooter, the WWE without The Undertaker & Kane, and Invader ZIM without Dib & Tak (for without Rowlf & Scooter to pave the way, The Muppets wouldn't be as big as they are; without The Phenom & The Big Red Machine, big guys in the pro wrestling business wouldn't get as much respect as they seem to; without Dib & Tak, Zim & Gaz would have nobody to play off of).
  10. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Out of the episodes aired so far, BB has been in 5 not counting EW. elmo's barley appeared outside his own segment.
  11. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Which is good. Elmo's being slowly reverted back to being one of the gang--despite having his own segment--instead of an attention hog.
  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    There will be at least 1 or 2 with him in the plot line. Maybe it's due in part to Kevin being so busy with other responsibilities on the show... though he did perform the Grand High Triangle Lover. It was a brief appearance, though.

    Only thing keeping the Bird down is the lack of stories written about him. That's my main point.

    Plus, with JTE gone, they pretty much stripped away something that was a sure fire way to get him on every episode.
  13. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    And speaking of Ernie, both Bert & Ernie have been rarely seen in puppet form as of late (sans old skits & EW) and even the claymation seems to be a sporadic off/on deal. Are the bossum buddies being regulated to part-time status, too?
  14. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    What are you saying! Big Bird has ALWAYS been a main character. I feel very offended by that dude, being a real big fan of Big Bird. That was just cruel and downright mean. You obviously don't know what your talking about.:mad:

    And I got to say, I think BB will rise into popularity again someday. When is the question. And how? Kids still know who he is, and as someone has mentioned, he is the backbone of SS. That's why I've been impressed with Season 39 so far, unlike the dissapointing season 38, BB has been in more street stories.

    Secretly, I believe SW has been trying to get the bird back into the spotlight. I mean, what is SS without a big 8 -foot yellow bird? Honestly, BB should've never "declined" in popularity anyway. No offense, but SW....what were you thinking? That was a brief "jumping the shark" momment for me, Lol.

    :wisdom: BIG BIRD FOREVER!:wisdom:
  15. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    Yeah, I mean I am just glad that the bird had lasted this long!:)
  16. mikebennidict

    mikebennidict New Member

  17. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    Dude, what are you saying? BB, along with Ernie, Bert, Grover, Cookie, Oscar, Count, Prairie, etc. have ALWAYS been main characters. Sure, BB wasn't like "the star" or whatever, in fact none of them were star's since Jim didn't believe in leads, but BB was always part of the Core cast of muppets, which means he Is a main character. If you mean you didn't consider him the star, then I can understand, since a lot of SS fans feel that way. But not saying he's a main character just doesn't seem to make sense. I don't even see why a true fan of SS would make such a comment like that. :smirk:

    Besides, Big Bird was one of the most popular muppets back then, in fact, the most popular one it seems. Where were you back then?

    But anyways, I'm going to stop this discussion before this thread gets locked or something...
  18. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    I am glad most of the gang--including Elmo--has lasted this long, period.
  19. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    Well, of course, but it does not hurt anything to just talk about how writing shapes which characters get noticed more now and then, after all, it's not like what we say here matters to them one way or another, it's just talk :)

    I think he hasn't really, he still has so much to teach older children:)...
  20. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Actually, I do think what we fans say does matter to them, because although they market to a young audience, we adults who grew with them are just as much a part of the fanbase as the children are.


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