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When you need to rant...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by miss kermie, Apr 4, 2012.

  1. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Every generation is less moral than the last one. And that's usually a good thing, as "moral" tends to be code words for being repressed and hateful. I mean, we still have racism, but not to the extent where we have racist caricatures as our favorite cartoon stars....

    Side note: Really... the Tiny Toons episode based on him was complete and utter bullcrap. Their cartoons were terrible.

    Every generation has troublemakers. They're marginalized and, frankly, they have no discipline to do anything positive with their lives and usually hold no power or influence. Usually. At worst, bullies become your boss and you can't do anything about it, unless you can get another job. Sure, there's always that jerk you knew that's more successful than you, but he's just got a higher paying job as a cog for the most part.

    If it's about pre-marital teens, it's all about that lack of discipline. They'll drop out of school, get lousy jobs... bad things will happen to their family as they have for quite some time. We're just hearing of it in the past few decades because they wanted to keep that stuff hush hush in the 50's, because we all know the culture of fake cleanliness and conformity of that era. And those times were MUCH worse than anyone nostalgically waxes about. Oh, if you were a white suburban family it was a paradise... just so long as you lived in constant fear of attacks that could happen. Could but didn't.

    For every small immorality of the future, we lose a HUGE immorality from the past. That's the way history goes. We're pretty far from Caligula's day, no matter how active they want to portray kids as being. And the fact that the younger generation cares about the country's fiscal inequality while the older generation is afraid of entitlements that they themselves are on and would never get rid of as long as they benefit from it PROVES it.
  2. heralde Well-Known Member

    The bad stuff is always louder, more noticeable, that doesn't equal quantity. (You can tell I'm one of my good moods today, lol.)
  3. heralde Well-Known Member

    Except when Lucas or Bay are in charge of a film apparently. But since those characters are no sane person's favorites perhaps we are getting better, lol.
  4. Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I'm just one big oddball. I'm a girl. I enjoy dark/evil/scary stuff. I play video games. I dress like a guy. Thats not "normal" anywhere really. It sometimes makes it hard to talk to other people. They want to talk about their boyfriends and girl problems, I want to talk about video games and complain about online trophies. It doesn't really work out :p

    For the longest time my mom was convinced I was gay because I don't like any of the girly things she is trying to force on me :/
  5. heralde Well-Known Member

    My parents didn't get too obsessed with that stuff. For the most part if I liked something then it was a "me" thing, not a "boy or girl" thing. There were some exceptions but no one said parent/child relations was easy, lol.

    I did go through a phase in High School of not wanting to wear skirts because of how subjected I thought women were in society. I'm more willing to wear them now because I don't want society to influence my choices even in a contrary way.
  6. Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I always said there was no such thing as nonconformity. You may think you are trying to rebel against what society is throwing at you, but you are still conforming to yet another group's expectations.
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  7. D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    You would've made a great feminist. ;)
    That's strangely profound.
  8. heralde Well-Known Member

    In High School yes, lol. Nowadays I don't like labels so much. But thanks. :)
  9. Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I said something profound? :eek:
  10. D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Yes, so now the world's coming to an end.
  11. heralde Well-Known Member

    Ugh, good job, Sarge...You and your profoundness! :p
  12. Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Oh great...I just gave a bad name to good demons everywhere
  13. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Lucas was always slightly racist, even when the first Star Wars was named Luke Starkiller something or other. The difference is, he willfully worked well with others who suggested different concepts that swayed him off those. C3-PO was dangerously close to being Watto. Too bad he became a perfectionist surrounded by Yesmen. All the best concepts in the original Star Wars trilogy weren't even his.

    Bay's just terrible.

    Wait... I said FAVORITE cartoon characters. Anyone like those guys either one created?

    But seriously. That episode of Tiny Toons "Fields of Honey" was full of crap. The cartoons weren't funny, and Honey was basically a personality devoid Bosco clone. Fleischer Studios ruled the 1930's. Everyone else was making meh stuff. The 1940's where when cartoons REALLY got good.

    There is a true non-conformity. It has something to do with being completely rejected from society and having no friends. It leads to great depression and later going completely insane. I'd rather just stick to similar aspects of a counter culture. It's not true non-conformity, but it's still rejecting what you're supposed to be.

    But that's the great thing about progress. People are more open to people different than them. 1950's, they'd call you a juvenile delinquent and some panties in a bunch tool would burn and ban your EC comics.
  14. heralde Well-Known Member

    I swear, I don't know if it's him, or his writers, or both, but someone there has the most low class, hideous sense of humor it has ever been my displeasure to experience, lol. Or at the very least, they think that's what their audience is like. I know there was a writer's strike and that can make things difficult, the same thing happened with Star Trek V, whose humor is also pretty sub par. But Star Trek V never gotten to the unspeakable depths of a Bay film. Congrats guys, you made Star Trek V look good! :p

    I think if anyone did they're in a very tiny minority. I know those films made a lot of money, but I doubt it was because of those characters.

    Yeah this is the dirty little secret about conformity/nonconformity that we don't like to talk about. True nonconformity should in theory leave a person bitter and angry and miserable, even if they're absolutely in the right. In Philosophy class we talked about the difference between living comfortably (conforming with society, having money, friends etc) and living well (suffering but being a good person).
  15. fuzzygobo Well-Known Member

    There was a recent study that shows 99% of American households have at least one television. The same study shows only 97% of American households have indoor plumbing. That's a good summation of our society-
    Too much crap coming in, not enough crap going out. :)
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  16. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I say this all the time. Bay is only different from Uwe Bowl in box office numbers and Hollywood pull. They both have an Inspector Gadget/Hong Kong Phooey level of oblivious egotism. I'd like to see Bay do a movie with Mathew McCouneghey. That would be so awful, it would be weaponized.

    Yeah, vs. the 30's where they had such a vague concept of humor in their cartoons that they had to do blackface and various racist bits... the untalented ones, anyway, to sell a character. And in the end, none of them are really that funny. But that's unfair, since we know that Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck exist now.


    Pure conformity is when you lose the essence of what you want to be. That's what the 1950's were like. If you strayed too far from the norm, you were automatically suspicious or a J.D. Because, like I said, people love to whitewash the unmitigated fear that swept the nation at the time.

    No one wants to be a misfit among misfits. It's very lonely, it's depressing... and it doesn't end well for those who are that side of society. no one wants to be that kind of non-conformist.
  17. KingR76 Member

    At the moment I am beyond fuming. my financial situation isnt exactly how it could be and I wish it were better - what with this that and the other.

    Tomorrow, I'm going to be meeting Kermit the Frog, a Dream of mine, a BIG Dream of mine that I've wanted to happen all my life and I thought I'd never experience.

    And then, a discussion about buying an Autograph that I can't afford at the moment led to the other person saying:

    "You're spending money on a guy sticking a hand up a Muppets a**"

    There are no words that even come close to say how that made me almost flip out. I can take a lot of stuff, heck knows I can but insulting my first ever Fandom AND the Muppets?

    I need to cool down, really cool down.
  18. D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I think it's selfish how some people charge for their autographs... I don't know if it's to discourage people from asking for them, or if they figure some people actually would pay through the nose for one... either way, I just don't think it's right; autographs should be free. Besides, most of celebs are rich enough anyway, what do they need to squeeze extra cash out of their fans for anyway?
  19. charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    Ouch. That's a very crude thing to say regardless of whatever the circumstances. I don't blame you for getting mad.
  20. KingR76 Member

    This is someone I know who has an Autograph I was interested in buying off him, but due to my financial situation I cant commit to buy it at the moment. I then had to listen to what a terrible person I was for backing out of the agreement because its not as though I owe money to more people than I can even think about.

    Heck, I cant afford to pay the delivery charge for my new Fridge Freezer until next week, the credit card company are harrassing me with phone calls yadda yadda yadda. My financial situation is nothing to do with this person I know he doesn't understand what it is but the ULTIMATE insult came from what he said about the Muppets.

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