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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by miss kermie, Apr 4, 2012.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Which is why during WWII they had to call them "Salisbury Steaks."

    Now here's my rant, and boy is it ever a good one.

    The actor who plays Jake on Two and a Half Men "found religion" (never good) and started ranting about how much the show is filth and to stop watching it.

    Now, there's 2 things about this that make me laugh.

    It's Kirk Cameron crap all over again. You know, the atheist that "found religion" and then became an overzealous jerk and started bullying the entire crew of Growing Pains (actors and writers) so they can all make sure the show lives up to his crazy puritanical standards. Thus making a show that sucked suck more. While there are people that legitimately found religion and sincerely let faith into their hearts, I find a lot of these like those cases of that one guy who watched one indie film part way and claims to be a cinema snob... you know, the one that then scoffs at you for daring to see anything mainstream because there's not enough suffering and awareness for a cause they don't really give a crap about/will never do anything for? It's like a blank check to act like a jerk and pass judgement on everyone else because they're not "true believers" that JUST found out about something everyone else was wise to and actually sincere about.THAT'S how I feel about over zealous "I fownd teh relijins" guys. And I love how Angus's new found religion has cult like terminology, but I won't go into that. Suffice to say, it's all cower before the might of God who hates the heck out of you crap. That's not EVEN religion.

    But the thing that really gets me is the fact at least 2 key members of the series went nuts and started whining about how terrible it was, even though they're the highest paid actors on TV. That's a SURE sign that it's time to end the series. Filth, aAngus says? Their hasn't been anything remotely cheeky since Ashton took over the show and turned it into something WORSE than the stale series it was. The show is 3 seasons overdue for cancellation, Chuck needs to get that through his head. Plus, who'd've thought Jon Cryer would be the sane one in the cast?
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  2. robodog

    robodog Active Member

    those types are the ones who give religion a bad name. They don't seem to realize that by shoving their beliefs down people's throats they're turning people away from religion rather than making them see the light. I also have a problem with those who use religion as an excuse for bigotry. I have a sneaking suspicion that when these types die and reach the afterlife their first thought will be something along the lines of "wow. there's an awful lot of fire and brimstone in heaven" right before they slowly realize the awful truth. I'm Christian and I hate those types as much as anyone. They're hurting Christianity not helping it.
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  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Agreed fully. Now, I understand there's a lot of complexity, and there are those who have been raised to belief certain things that are unfounded and or hateful. But that's the point with those kinds. They were raised that way, denoting they were like that all along. I HATE when the reborns who used to do drugs, had lots of the very same sex they wag their fingers at everyone else for doing, and lord knows what else and then feel the need to lecture people on how to live, especially people who their entire lives DIDN'T do any of that. People who did immoral things wanna be morally superior to people who didn't because they found a small fraction of a religion that lets you. They're as bad as those gamers that buy 8-Bit classic T-shirts with characters they'd've beaten other kids up for wearing when they were kids and calling themselves "Hard Core Gamers" when they only play Halo or other Shoot-em-ups, and only because their friends were.
  4. robodog

    robodog Active Member

    There are posers everywhere. In fandom, in religion and pretty much everywhere else. Sadly all we can really do is grit our teeth and deal with it. For some strange reason if you punch these people in the face suddenly YOU'RE the bad guy.
  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    That's what I said in another thread: he's JUST NOW realizing that the show he's on is filth? What does he expect working for Chuck Lorre?
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  6. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Yeah seriously, I knew that ages ago, lol.
  7. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    He calls that show filth yet turns a blind eye to just about every bit of "reality" TV? :rolleyes:
  8. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    True, I'll save him the trouble. Pick one random thing on TV nowadays, chances are it will be filth, lol.
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member


    That's because he's just now turned into one of those insufferable fake Born Again Christians and became a prude. And then he retracted it because he's moral enough to think the show is turning people to Satanism but not moral enough not to take a HUGE check for making fart, drug, and lady part jokes.
  10. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Yeah I mean I remember the actress who played Blair on Facts of Life decided not to do an episode that focused on her character having premarital sex because it was against her beliefs. That I respect because she truly stuck to her convictions even if it possibly meant her getting in trouble with the show.
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Yes, but when Kirk Cameron did the same thing, he was a tyrant. He bullied everyone on the staff until he got his way. Why they didn't fire his sorry butt is beyond me. There's a difference between having convictions and saying you can't do an episode and making everyone else miserable to uphold beliefs that one just started believing in.

    Still, there's a difference between actor and character. There's an actor helping shape the character or understanding the character even better than the creator (that happened with Spock, and a lot of Muppet characters), but that's different. I almost can respect someone not wanting to do something in a show that contradicts their beliefs, but you look at all these actors who played against them. Carol O'Conner was far from Conservative when playing Archie Bunker.

    That said, isn't Blair on Survivor? That's a LOT worse than fake pretending premarital sex unseen but mentioned in a TV show. I guess morals only matter as long as you're popular, huh?
  12. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Well it helped that his character was so popular. He probably knew he could get away with acting that way.

    But Blair was not quite so popular as Kirk Cameron. I think it was more of a risk for her to refuse to do that episode.

    Well that's a little different. Archie was never supposed to be taken seriously. He was very much a liberal version of what a conservative is.

    I think if you need money, you have to work. I don't hold that against her. Darn right it is easier to have morals when things are going fine. That's true of everybody. And I can sympathize.
  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    WHY the ELMO has Hot in Cleveland been given ANOTHER season?! NOBODY likes that show!!! People have made it LOUD AND CLEAR to TV Land for the past FOUR YEARS (apparently), NOBODY LIKES HOT IN CLEVELAND, NOBODY LIKES RETIRED AT 35, NOBODY LIKES HAPPILY DIVORCED, NOBODY LIKES THE EXES, NOBODY LIKES THE SOUL MAN, NOBODY LIKES THE ORIGINAL SITCOMS WITH HAS-BEEN ACTORS TV LAND KEEPS CRANKING OUT, TV LAND IS SUPPOSED TO BE DEDICATED TO CLASSIC TELEVISION, NOT THEIR OWN CASHCOWS! IT'S A GOOD THING THERE'S METV AND RTV AND THE LIKE, BECAUSE TV LAND HAS ALIENATED ITS VIEWERS.

    SERIOUSLY, THERE'S EVEN A FACEBOOK GROUP PROTESTING TV LAND'S ORIGINAL SITCOMS, WHICH TV LAND ITSELF HAS ACKNOWLEDGE, BUT ADMIT THEY'D RATHER CATER TO THEIR OWN GREED, INSTEAD OF CATER TO ITS VIEWERS.

    FROG YOU TV LAND. FROG YOU FOR ALIENATING US ALL.
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  14. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    Wow, you must really like these people!:D
  15. Hubert

    Hubert Well-Known Member

    WOO! WOO WOO WOO WOO WOO WOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I second, fourth eighth and tenth that, and like that!
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I don't understand why Hot in Cleveland is popular enough to be on TV but not popular enough to be on a network that shows original programming. Like I always say, channels devoted to movies just run original programming and channels devoted to original programming just run movies. HIC is basically the TV show adaption of the Betty White Meme that was barely popular a year. Plus, considering it's about a bunch of over 40 year old women trying to get some, it's basically Golden Girls with a younger cast. But I never saw it, so I can't really comment on it.

    I like MeTV, but I wish they'd put on something besides the FREAKING Cowboy shows over and over and over. All the good stuff is at 9 and 10. Where's the Laverne and Shirley or Happy Days or Taxi? Get Smart at 1 AM Saturdays? You have all these great shows, but they're on too late or opposite something else. And all Afternoon, cowboy show, cowboy show, cowboy show.
  17. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    This whole "Jim Henson Company Puppets" thing STILL drives my absolutely bonkers, to the point that I want to scream and break things.

    I don't care if Disney legally owns the trademark to the word "Muppet", Jim Henson himself was the man who created the Muppets and changed the world of puppetry as we know it in the process, therefore, any puppets that are associated with his company are still "Muppets" either way. "Muppet" doesn't just apply to Kermit, Piggy, Fozzie, Gonzo, etc, it also applies to Big Bird, Gobo Fraggle, Emmet Otter, et al.
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  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member


    I have a problem with that, and I wish that Disney gave JHC the same special treatment as SW, who does get to call the Sesame Street characters Muppets. But the sad thing is, it's only a business logistics what-the-heck-ever technical legalese thing. Remember that crap that happened over the Summer with Chick Feelas (please, no one go into that subject. This is to illustrate a point)? Everyone assumed it was a The Muppets thing and posted Muppet related things reguarding Disney and SW owned properties even when it was just JHC. I'm glad Toughpigs corrected it with "Waffle Fries NO! Waffle Monkey SI!" or something like that.

    There should have been a few more provisions to the sale. But that brings me to another point...

    How come when a big entertainment company buys a smaller one, they always get the stink eye? Now, I'm not saying that in the cases where the company changed hands multiple times and were acquired at various liquidation sales... but I'm talking about times where the company is sold to another company because said first company doesn't really want to deal with it anymore.

    George Lucas sold Lucasfilm to Disney... Peter Laird sold TMNT to Nickelodeon... The CW sold their kid's programming block to 4Kids (before it went under)... explaining that one to idiots that were angry that 4Kids bought Kid's WB, thus ending the steady stream of programming that Kids WB already cancelled for some reason to teenage brats on Youtube was like pulling teeth... The point is, sometimes the company that gets bought up APPROACHES the other company.
  19. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Okay, at this time, I am feeling really, REALLY deprived right now, and it's times like these that makes me think, don't people wish they listened to Al Gore sooner, rather than dismiss him as a nutjob?

    Now then, I suppose I can't complain too awful much, considering that here a few months ago, the unimaginable happened: we actually had a bearable and tolerable summer for once... that RARELY happens for us... so, you would think, after being given a break during summer for once, that we could also possibly have a nice crisp fall, and a nice cold winter to go with it.

    No such luck.

    I mean, throughout much of this past fall, we kept having recurring bouts of spring-like weather, sunny and warm, upwards into the 70s, throughout fall: y'know, the season where the air is supposed to be nice and crisp, not too hot, and not too cold? Yeah, apparently Mother Nature wasn't in the mood for that this year. But NOW! Now, here it is, the first mark of the time of year that I always look forward to, the beginning of December, the beginning of winter, when the weather is supposed to be nice and refreshing, where you can bundle up in snuggly sweaters, and take in the clean, refreshing air that puts an extra spring in your step... but nooooo! No, here it is the beginning of December, and it's in the 70s outside! I'm walking around in t-shirts and shorts IN WINTER!!! On top of that, so far, the weekly forecast is saying sweater weather won't even return for another week or two. WHAT?! You mean, I have to spend the first week or two of December in clothing other than sweaters and jackets, and keep the air conditioning on?! And even worse... according to all the forecast models for the next three months, cold weather isn't projected to even return to this region until February. WHAT?!! DECEMBER AND JANUARY AREN'T EVEN GOING TO BE COLD THIS YEAR?!! WHAT THE FROG PEOPLE!!!

    I am really, really, REALLY feeling SERIOUSLY DEPRIVED RIGHT NOW!!! Have any of you spent time down here in this part of the country? It stays warm, humid, muggy, or just plain hot a vast majority of the year! We don't even get to enjoy much of the season of fall, because the heat usually likes to stick around throughout all of September and much of October, but come November through February (some of March, if we're lucky), that's the ONLY time we get a break from the constant humidity! This is even WORSE than last year, and we didn't even have fall or winter last year! Fall remained mostly spring-like last year, like this year, HOWEVER, last year, while it wasn't exactly a nice and cold winter, we didn't have to walk around in t-shirts and shorts like we're having to right now! In addition to that, we had early springs the last two years... again, as you can plainly see, I AM FEEL REALLY DEPRIVED RIGHT NOW, AND I AM NO LONGER HAPPY!!!

    Sorry, I'm just in a RULLY bad mood today over all of this.
  20. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    Would it make you feel better...or at least make you laugh... if I told you that my mom is one of those people who believe in the conspiracy theory that the government is controlling the weather? :p
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