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Why are FR songs so short?

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by Princeton, Sep 27, 2006.

  1. Princeton

    Princeton Guest

    The title is pretty self-explanatory. I've noticed that the average length of any FR song is just a little over a minute. Maybe I'm curious because I love the songs and I guess I just want more. Anyone have any ideas?
     
  2. MrsWembly

    MrsWembly New Member

    I guess you only have so much time to develop a story and sing songs in a single episode, but I know what you mean. It would be great if they would come out with a CD with extended versions of songs. One song called “Here to There” by Wembley is one that I wish was longer. It is way too short.
     
  3. Maybe one reason is not to detract too much from the story and pace. I think the song lengths fit very nicely.
     
  4. KermieBaby47

    KermieBaby47 Well-Known Member

    Have any of you heard the extended version of the theme song? It's so cool, I think it's my favorite Fraggle song. Lots of scatting (is that what you call it?), real jazzy sound to it, plus it starts off with Sprocket barking with a little dialogue from Doc.

    Classic.
     
  5. zeldazipple

    zeldazipple New Member

    yeah I even have this song. I relember listening to it from the record years ago. I always thougth that was brillant the way they put it together.
     
  6. Foodie

    Foodie Active Member

    Cuz the show was only so long. Plus, in the Season 1 DVD bonus stuff, Jerry Juhl talks about how he had to tell Balsam and/or Lee to shorten some of their songs cuz the show's only less than 30 minutes. :smirk:
     
  7. Foodie

    Foodie Active Member

    They play that song during with the Fraggle Float from the '84 Macy's Thanksgiving Parade. There's even some silly-creature-sized fraggles who breakdance to it. I kid thee not.

    One can find this song on the " Music and Magic " CD too. :smirk: :excited:
     
  8. superboober

    superboober Member

    It was on the record containing the best sogns from Season 1 that I once had. Funnily enough, sometimes I remember the record with Doc's dialogue and sometimes without, which I think was the case with reissues of it.
     
  9. anathema

    anathema Active Member

    There are two different mixes of the extended theme. The one on the US record album features Doc's voice at the start; the one on the UK album does not (for obvious reasons) and also has a different musical arrangement.
     
  10. Foodie

    Foodie Active Member

    Doc's voice is in the " Music and Magic " CD version too.:smirk:
     
  11. Emosewa

    Emosewa New Member

    Hahah, oh I wish I had seen that Macy's parade ^_^ .

    And yes, I think they needed the songs short, since they had to put the story first. But the songs are nice as they are, even if a few extended ones like for cds would be great.
     
  12. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member

    I think I'll agree with the others by saying that there was only so much time in the episodes. Also, there were times when there was more than one song in an episode. If they were any longer than the episode would be entirely songs. Not that it is bad, the songs are great, but there needs to be room for story (book only). I mean, not even the Sesame Street songs are much longer than that and its an hour long show.
     
  13. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Many of the songs on The Muppet Show and Sesame Street were short as well. Though in this case it's usually shorter than two or three minutes. In the booklet for The Muppet Show 25th anniversary album, it was said that Jim Henson didn't want The Muppet Show to have very many musical that lasted more than two minutes. I think that a lot of the song covers on The Muppet Show were shortened, often shortening or leaving out instrumental breaks and leaving out parts of songs that get repeated. I've noticed that a lot of the songs in A Muppet Family Christmas are shorter than their original versiosna s well (I remember one christmas listening to a lot of these songs on the radio and noticing that many verses or lines got repeated a lot more than in MFC).

    A year ago I started to notice that Muppet Babies usually only had one song per episode. I don't know why it took so long for me to notice this, and I don't know why most episodes only had one song.
     
  14. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member


    Probably because for a daily half hour cartoon, only one song is necessary and simpler. I think more goes into cranking out a bunch of episodes of an animated series. There's just no time to write that many songs. Plus, one was enough.
     
  15. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Are there very many animated shows that regularly include more than one song, besides the theme song? I think that many episodes of Garfield have multiple songs, though not in the same short story (many episodes have a song in one of the Garfield segments and one of the U.S. Acres segment). I think there are episodes of Alvin and the Chipmunks that have multiple songs. It's weird that I didn't notice for such a long time that a lot of the cartoons that I grew up watching had such a lack of songs and musical numbers. I don't think Tail Spin or Darkwing Duck had any songs in the episodes.
     
  16. Foodie

    Foodie Active Member

    I did manage to see that when it aired in '84, which was before I'd ever seen Fraggle Rock. In fact, that may have been my first exposure to them thar fraggles.

    I have a copy of that parade on tape & DVD ( I think ) now. John Schneider follows them on a giant dog float that I first thought was Sprocky. T'wasn't though. :smirk:
     
  17. Foodie

    Foodie Active Member

    I believe they crammed in a few brutalized songs from the original series into each cartoon. The voice actors made ME feel embarassed for them. Red's singing voice on the 'toon was... * shudders * And Ma Gorg! * gags * And the Trash Heap ... * explodes *:smirk:

    I think they did one song per show and most of the shows consisted of 2 short stories.
     
  18. BEAR

    BEAR Active Member



    Tale Spin has songs sometimes, as did some of the other Disney Afternoon shows, but it wasn't a regular occurance. Animaniacs had songs as a regular part of their show.
     
  19. Princeton

    Princeton Active Member

    Does anyone remember the Disney Channel show "Adventures In Wonderland" from the early 90's (ya know, with the White Rabbit on rollerskates)? Well, on that show, every episode had at least four songs. Granted, it was a live-action show, but I just thought I'd mention it to go along with the "kid shows" argument.
     

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