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Why isn't Skeeter a Muppet?

Discussion in 'Muppet Babies' started by Disneys Muppets, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. We Got Us Active Member

    Ok, I love discussions like this, so prepare for two cents: Firstly, I can see why there is no Skeeter. She's the kind of a character that wouldn't sit well in the back row and would probably end up outshining a few others. She definitely brought out the mean, selfish side in Miss Piggy. And you have to remember that Miss Piggy's huge appeal now a days is that she's the dominant, fearless woman. Not sure where that goes when Tom-boyish Skeeter shows up. Also, that saddles Scooter with looking like a total nerd, which they were just finally beginning to fix. Muppet show Scooter =Richard Hunt's funny, ditzy, overeager go-fer, Muppet Babies Scooter = nerdy, super-genius under the shadow of twin sister. It's completely opinionated but I always though it really ruined the character. That being said, I loved Roger and Amy's arch. It was amazingly well done....but for a one-time project where your not sure how real it is. :D The parent's issue is an interesting one, I especially liked the fan-fic "Whatever Happened to Skeeter" for explaining that one.
    Ok, that's all I got. I would love to see Skeeter back in more comic books, but unless Scooter becomes a really mainstream character or something, I think they'd better take one thing at a time.
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  2. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Scooter was made the obligatory nerd character. Every 1980's show had one. I think they even turned Simon (of the Chipmunks) into a nerd in the 1980's series when he was just Alvin's more well behaved brother in The Alvin Show. I don't think he really talked that much or did all that much, but I haven't seen Alvin Show in years, so I can't back that up.

    Skeeter was the obligatory sporty/athletic character... but I think that making her the twin of the nerd character balances it out in a way that makes it seem less like a forced trope and more like a sibling thing.
  3. RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    She risks outshining Piggy and Gonzo. However, there IS a sports-caster in TMS, so it's not hard to find her a niche where she can slide in and not step on too many toes. It's kind of like that question on the Mindset I read ages ago, like why is there Rowlf when there's Teeth ... and the thing is, they have different tastes. Gonzo is a daredevil with a penchant for including classical references. Skeeter's more of a regular athlete. Piggy is a fashion diva. I see Skeeter more as the solid frontier-type woman, who had to rake her own dirt and make it in life.

    What would be nice, if she's ever included, is to imply that she is the reason Piggy could stand up to her frog for the first time in decades in Paris. It's not hard to imagine a frank "girl talk" scene where Skeeter says she was never really after Kermit, just wanting to get Piggy and Kermit to admit they loved one another (and tweaking Piggy was fun, heeheehee), and that Piggy is so quick to demand admiration from the fashion world but doesn't have the cajones to demand it of the one guy from whom she needs it most. Piggy and Skeeter finally drop the rival role (but could keep more playful versions) and learn to accept their common sense of inner strength.
    Even without Skeeter, they seem to have been moving into this direction anyway. Scooter has a laptop in LTS and he works for Google in the movie. They're clearly getting some MB inspiration for him. The great part is that you don't even really have to deal with Muppet Babies. We rarely saw him (did we at all?) in JHH or MT, but those were very techie-heavy things (in comparison to TMS, anyway). I can imagine Digit and Lindbergh teaching him a lot about electronic do-dads.
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  4. beaker Well-Known Member

    The fact there is no modern day Skeeter ala Skeeter in the comics PROVES how lame brained Disney is. Let's see, a brash spunky unique FEMALE Muppet character who would appeal to tween/teen girls and the hot topic crowd? Hello!

    I can't imagine why any Muppet fan would not want to see a teen/college aged version of her. She is EXACTLY what the Muppets need right now. There's like what, two Muppet female characters these days? Piggy and Janice, who rarely speaks or is even seen. And "Poogy"...not quite the best character.
  5. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I severely doubt Disney's to blame here... and I really doubt Jason and the rest read that exact comic arc, especially with intent to add another new character into the movie (they shoved too much into that film already). Even if they did decide to add her in, that wouldn't have been the project to introduce her. That needs either a new TV series or another movie to work.

    Skeeter was treated as a Muppet Babies only character since Jim Henson's day, and I doubt they'd ever have added her into anything else then, now, or ever. I'm shocked they managed to put her in the comics to begin with.

    Like I said earlier, even if we did get Skeeter, it'd be just a girl Scooter they'd use once or twice and then completely abandon. It took Roger and Amy to create the character, and the probabilities of her getting added would be the same as them adding Ninja Rogers or Clint Wacky. She's treated as a comic book only character, and she'll likely just be a comic book character. Sure, we'd LOVE to see her retconned into the Muppet canon, but it's not going to happen. Jim Henson didn't do it, why would Jim Lewis? They seem heckbent to separate the character from the rest of the Muppets with some crazy backstory... and that's the way it was and will be.

    And I have to admit... when was there ever a strong, permanent female role model in the Muppets other than Piggy and Janice? All the women characters I remember lasted barely a season... Gladys, Miss Mousy, Wanda, Hilda, Mildred, Vicky on the Jim Henson hour... not exactly permanent fixtures. The stronger females were always in Sesame Street and especially Fraggle Rock. Sure, it would be fun to have some new female characters, but they never manage to stick around long.
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  6. bingboingcutie Active Member

    That is a good idea! I say just get rid of the whole rivalry and give her something funny about her character and she could become one of the Muppets.
  7. Skeeter 2 B New Member

    Ok, for all you Skeeter fan's out there. Skeeter is about to make the leap into Live action. My custome made Skeeter is almost done. A good friend of mine made her for me, and did a FANTASTIC job. I should have her soon, and once I do I'll be sure to post plenty of finished photos of her here, but for now here's a sneak peek.

    http://jwswickedpuppetfactory.blogspot.com/2011/12/finishing-up-2011.html
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  8. bingboingcutie Active Member

    Aww, she's adorable!! Someone needs to put her on and create a new Muppet character (or rather, an old one). How was the face made??
  9. Skeeter 2 B New Member

    Oh I will, I'm personally going to be working with Skeeter, even if it only gets as far as You Tube Vidos. Thou, I'm not sure she going to like me so much, I'm kind of a "Nerd" myself. Me and my friend have 10 puppets between the 2 of us. We've set up a small set and camera in our house and are curently working on a few scrips. As always once i have something I'll post it here. :excited:
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  10. bingboingcutie Active Member

    Lol; when I get to the Jim Henson company one of these days, I'm so going to meet Skeeter.
  11. Skeeter 2 B New Member

  12. charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    That looks great! Whoever made that did a very nice job.
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  14. DannyRWW Well-Known Member

  15. Slackbot Well-Known Member

  16. Skeeter 2 B New Member

    Let me be clear, and give credit where credit is due, I didn't make her. A friend of mine did. Skeeter is puppet #2 I've got from him. Penlope was the first. Both are on his site. Here's it is so you can see more of his work.

    http://jwswickedpuppetfactory.blogspot.com/
  17. Animal31 Active Member

    Wow, I think I need to hire you as my agent!!!

    And thank you, I'm really glad you liked her.........
  18. miss kermie Well-Known Member

    What happened to Skeeter?
    Watch Robot Chicken.
    Oh you wanted the REAL answer.

    I do believe Skeeter's animated preformer passed away, and the puppeteers couldn't find a close voice match, so they didn't use her, because if they didn't use her before Muppet Babies, they didn't have to use her afterwards.
  19. Slackbot Well-Known Member

    Er, I doubt that's the case. She has already been recast once, from Howie Mendel to Frank Welker. Both voice actors are still alive. And I'm certain that if they aged her they'd recast her voice. Welker is amazing, but somehow I don't see him voicing a peppery young woman.

    Probably The Powers That Be just see Skeeter as non-canon. She was created to be another female in the nursery, and when that need was gone, so was Skeeter.

    Last I heard Nanny threw her out in the trash, and she's now living in the dump with friends made of garbage.
  20. Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The heck with those stories about her being "lost in the Amazon." THAT'S the truth.

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